Pro possibilty for any of these 3 QB's?

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006 · 05-03-2007, 02:15 PM

I was thinking of these two sophomores in Juice Williams of Illinois and Matt Grothe of South Florida.

Williams is listed at 6'2 and 233 lbs.
Stats are as followed:
12 games...103 of 261 passing...1489 yards...9 tds...9 int...154 carries...576 yards...2 tds

Grothe is listed at 6'0 and 200 lbs.
Stats are as followed:
13 games...202 of 317 passing...2576 yards...15 tds...14 int...178 carries...622 yards...9 tds

The last QB I had in mind was John Parker Wilson from Alabama

Wilson is listed at 6'2 209 lbs.
Stats are as followed:
13 games...216 of 379 passing...2707 yards...17 tds...10 int...82 carries...290 yards

Which of these 3 if any will have a shot at the NFL?

-black · 05-03-2007, 02:25 PM

Grothe, is a Jeff Garcia type of QB.....

Giantsfan1080 · 05-03-2007, 02:50 PM

I'm not sure who I'd compare Grothe to right now but I think he has an excellent shot of playing in the NFL one day. The kid makes plays.

HuskerNation · 05-03-2007, 03:15 PM

Juice Williams, next McNabb IMO, by the end of his junior year he'll be a household name. Book it!

Michigan · 05-03-2007, 03:41 PM

juice kinda sucks...

sweetness34 · 05-03-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Michigan

juice kinda sucks...

Juice kinda is only a sophomore. He also had a ton of drops last year. Not to say that his accuracy needed much improvement but he's going to be damn good before he's gone.

He looked good in the Spring Game to hopefully that carries over to the regular season.

TigerBait45 · 05-04-2007, 12:09 AM

Grothe looks like he could be a stud whenever he comes out if he keeps playing this way.

I love watching him (and USF in general) play.

Tampa 2 4 life · 05-04-2007, 10:28 AM

I could easily see Grothe as a Day One pick. He has good accuracy and is a great leader, with decent arm strength. I don't know who I'd compare him to, but I'm pretty sure it's not Jeff Garcia.

Sniper · 05-04-2007, 11:27 AM

Juice needs to work a lot on his accuracy, but he has the physical tools to make it. HuskerNation, seriously, new material may be in store for you, and Tech just put up another TD.

ElectricEye · 05-04-2007, 03:27 PM

Juice has the most upside out of any of those guys.

DWilliams2IndyColts · 05-05-2007, 12:09 AM

I actually think with the winter and spring Illinois had I think Juice could be a bigger Troy Smith. I think Grothe will have a high draft stock depending on success but either way will play well in the NFL and I think of JP Wilson as more of a system QB who pending where he goes will be pretty average.

Sniper · 05-05-2007, 12:33 PM

It's never a good sign when you don't up put at least 50% completion, that kind of worries me. Grothe is pretty good though, could be a decent NFL starter.

HuskerNation, really, you're that proud of winning a mediocre bowl game? That's unbelievably pathetic. I find it odd you're so eager to bring up the Michigan/USC game, do you conveniently forget that your powerhouse Huskers lost 28-10 to SC. So, let's review....

USC 32
Michigan 18 (14 point differential)

USC 28
Nebraska 10 (18 point differential)

sweetness34 · 05-05-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DWilliams2IndyColts

I actually think with the winter and spring Illinois had I think Juice could be a bigger Troy Smith. I think Grothe will have a high draft stock depending on success but either way will play well in the NFL and I think of JP Wilson as more of a system QB who pending where he goes will be pretty average.

Juice doesn't really compare to Troy. Much stronger arm, faster, taller bigger in size, quicker release, and much more of a prospect than Troy.

The only thing Troy really has over Juice is accuracy and experience, but Juice will improve on those areas as he gets more time.

05-06-2007, 08:21 PM

Out of the three, maybe Juice as a WR. None of them are NFL caliber QBs.

sweetness34 · 05-07-2007, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Salami

Out of the three, maybe Juice as a WR. None of them are NFL caliber QBs.

You're joking right? Juice has the size, arm strenth, and speed to be an NFL QB right now. With some work on his accuracy and decision making he's a legit NFL prospect at QB. The kid has a ton of potential.

Sniper · 05-07-2007, 06:22 AM

Why exactly is it every time a black QB comes through everyone says he will end up being a WR? Look I think Juice's accuracy needs serious work, but other than that he has all the tools to be a QUARTERBACK, who happens to be able to elude pass rushers and scramble upfield

dabears10 · 05-07-2007, 10:08 AM

It is not because he is black. He just is not a good passer right now at all. He completed LESS THAN 40% of his passes. That is not good at all. It does not matter what tools you have unless you complete AT LEAST the very LEAST 50%. So it is not because he is black, it is because he sucks.

iowatreat54 · 05-07-2007, 10:28 AM

Juice = Reggie Ball part 2

JCarver27 · 05-07-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetness34

You're joking right? Juice has the size, arm strenth, and speed to be an NFL QB right now. With some work on his accuracy and decision making he's a legit NFL prospect at QB. The kid has a ton of potential.

OH MY GOD A DIFFERING OPINION!!!!!!!

maybe that person doesn't think he'll develop his accuracy and decision making. I know......it's a stretch to think that some college players might not make it to the NFL.

Xonraider · 05-07-2007, 11:34 AM

Juice got mad skillz... Hopefully he develops nicely, I'd love to see him play in the NFL at full potential.

Don Vito · 05-07-2007, 12:05 PM

Juice has great tools for a QB, I think he definitely has the ability to make it in the NFL. He is a little short, needs to refine his game, and improve his accuracy, but he definitely has the ability to make it in the NFL. Every time I have seen USF play, Grothe is very impressive. He can definitely move and has a good arm, but 6' 200 is awfully small for an NFL QB.

ChefMike · 05-08-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Vito

Juice has great tools for a QB, I think he definitely has the ability to make it in the NFL. He is a little short, needs to refine his game, and improve his accuracy, but he definitely has the ability to make it in the NFL. Every time I have seen USF play, Grothe is very impressive. He can definitely move and has a good arm, but 6' 200 is awfully small for an NFL QB.

I am SOOO sick of hearing this guy is too short that guy is too short... How tall do you need to be to play QB !! Juice Williams is 6'2.. (Joe Montana, Fran Tarkenton, Steve Young, Steve McNair, Donovan McNabb) all 6'2 !! Come on now everyone in the NFL that plays QB can't be built like Peyton Manning. I agree that you can't be 5'8" and play QB effectively. Troy Smith is a legit prospect, not a fan of him but defintely is a true pro prospect.

05-08-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by -black

Grothe, is a Jeff Garcia type of QB.....

Exactly, When I lived in Florida I remember when he was recruited, slightly homered but I think he could be a backup.

portermvp84 · 05-09-2007, 09:52 AM

Juice has a great chance for sucess in the NFL. Good arm, mobile and if he got a little better acuracy he could be one hell of a QB.

ToldLikeItIs · 05-09-2007, 01:04 PM

Williams isn't that fast, and 6'2? He's really 6'2?