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Old 05-04-2007, 03:35 PM    (permalink
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Default calvin johnson will not be the best rookie WR next year.

that is all.

come back to me at the end on next season with some stats. im sure calvin johnson wont be the top rc WR.


seems to me like a lot of people were riding his sack before the draft. they even seem to call him a 'cant miss'. the best WR in 10 years...he was basically praised like he was GOD himself. lol @ predraft hype.
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come back to me at the end on next season with some stats. im sure calvin johnson wont be the top rc WR
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Old 05-04-2007, 03:38 PM    (permalink
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he is just very overhyped...especially after the combine with his overrated 40time.


40times... they should just basically stop running them. a lot of players fall and rise just because of the time...it makes me sick


it would be much better if they actually did drills with pads at the combine.
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he was basically praised like he was GOD himself.
He isn't? Liar.
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who will be then? i see no reason why he won't be, he is by far the most talented
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Calvin Johnson was highly touted BEFORE the combine.. before this season, before last season.. Everyone knew what he was..
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Umm Calvin Johnson had a stellar career at GT with Reggie Ball as his QB, has all the talent you can ask for, 6'5'', 240, great hands, incredible body control, physical, great leaping ability, can go across the middle, showed he has the straightline speed to beat CBs on go routes and get behind the secondary for the go route, has great character....He deserves the hype. Its not inconceivable that Dwayne Bowe or maybe a different WR could have a better rookie year than him but its ridiculous to go out and announce he wont be the best rookie wideout because he is obviously the best prospect.
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Nice baseless argument, if it was even an argument at all? are you effin ********? Seriously....I agree 40 times can be overrated, but when a 6'5'' 240 lb. WIDE RECEIVER runs a 4.35 40, has a huge vertical and catches everyting near him, he isn't overhyped. Trust me, everything they say about him is true. He had 14 TD's last year with Reggie FRICKIN Ball at QB... Next time you want to make a pointless thread, think first. Is it a guaranteed that he will be the best Rookie WR next year, NO, but you could have made a better attempt of an argument other than saying that he is overhyped, because that is just a joke. THAT IS ALL!!!
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I can see Dwayne Bowe outproducing him this year, but that's no knock on CJ. Even Mike Furrey outproduced Roy Williams in Martz's offense, so there's no telling how many passes CJ will see. He will easily lead the rookies and possibly the league in TD catches though. If he was in Tampa Bay this wouldn't even be a question, you could already mark him down in the HOF ;)

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that is all.

come back to me at the end on next season with some stats. im sure calvin johnson wont be the top rc WR.


seems to me like a lot of people were riding his sack before the draft. they even seem to call him a 'cant miss'. the best WR in 10 years...he was basically praised like he was GOD himself. lol @ predraft hype.
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I don't think Johnson will be the top statistical wideout this coming year. He's entering a rather anemic offense and has Williams and Furrey to compete with for catches.

That said, we've all known who Calvin Johnson was since before the 2006 draft, and I was calling him possibly the best wideout prospect even last summer.
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Jon Kitna should again this year throw for over 4,000 yards so CJ should have atleast 1,000 of that.
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Impact wise, not stats wise CJ is already the best rookie WR.
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ya with kitna passing to him he wont. once thats changed well u know
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have you ever even seen a highligh vid of calvin johnson?? if you have then you kno what he can do with a not so good qb throwing to him imagine what he will do with the likes of kitna (an experienced qb) tossin him the ball... by far the best rookie wr, if not then who is big shooter?
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Hell, even if his production isn't on par with a Moss or even Colston; he should still make an impact strictly as a decoy. The fact is, Roy Williams was a pretty hot prospect a few years back and has been a good producer for the Lions. Calvin enters an offense with two good WRs so there is not as much pressure on him and Kitna will probably look like Montana after catching balls from Ball (no pun, well yes, pun intended).
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Kitna isn't bad his o-line is bad, but look at Roy's number's last year...

You were a huge CJ pimp before the draft, and if im not mistaken Kitna went for 4000 yards last year, yet you don't think CJ will lead for rookies?
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nah, lets not start copping pleas now. this dude is in a martz offense with a quarterback that threw for over 4,000 yards. if he doesn't have at least colston numbers he was overhtped. however, i feel he's going to have a tremendous season just based off the lesser talent he's played with his entire life. any idea if stanton will start this season/
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I don't think Johnson will be the top statistical wideout this coming year. He's entering a rather anemic offense and has Williams and Furrey to compete with for catches.
I agree with this completely. The best wide receiver for this year as far as rookies go in terms of production is going to be either Robert Meachem or Dwayne Jarrett, in my opinion. Both are likely to be rookie starters and will have the benefits of playing with solid wide receivers already. They play with Drew Brees and Jake Delhomme respectively - two solid quarterbacks, to say the least. Steve Smith and Marques Colston will draw attention off of them. I could see Jarrett producing like Keyshawn did last year - they're extremely similar players, for the same team. KJ caught 70-815-4 last year. I think Jarrett could catch around 60 passes for 11 or 12 YPC as well as grabbing even more touchdowns than Johnson.
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I agree with this completely. The best wide receiver for this year as far as rookies go in terms of production is going to be either Robert Meachem or Dwayne Jarrett, in my opinion. Both are likely to be rookie starters and will have the benefits of playing with solid wide receivers already. They play with Drew Brees and Jake Delhomme respectively - two solid quarterbacks, to say the least. Steve Smith and Marques Colston will draw attention off of them. I could see Jarrett producing like Keyshawn did last year - they're extremely similar players, for the same team. KJ caught 70-815-4 last year. I think Jarrett could catch around 60 passes for 11 or 12 YPC as well as grabbing even more touchdowns than Johnson.

I'd give Dwayne Bowe the inside track right now as he is NFL ready with his overall game and will receive plenty of touches in KC. Those guys you listed could become monsters in the endzone as well.
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He is going to be in the top 5 in TD catches!!! Lets make another baseless prediction. I predict that REGGIE BALL will have more TD catches than CJ..Hows that?
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