Carolina Panthers Discussion - Page 44

d34ng3l021 · 11-17-2008, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ShutDwn

Why is that? Our QB has been terrible the last few weeks, I wouldn't be surprised if he continues. I though the Raiders game might fire him up, but no such luck.

You could have a poor performance from Delhomme, but Stewart and Williams can tear through this defense, along with Peppers abusing Weiner to win the game.

JPF · 11-17-2008, 09:45 AM

Is it just me or is anyone else wondering if Jake isn't having issues with his arm that he's just not talking about?

thenewfeature06 · 11-18-2008, 08:37 AM

what are the panthers biggest draft needs?

ShutDwn · 11-18-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JPF

Is it just me or is anyone else wondering if Jake isn't having issues with his arm that he's just not talking about?

I don't know, he doesn't seem to be looking at it or anything that would tip us off. I think he is just bad right now, if he could just be accurate these last few games would be blowouts.

thenewfeature06 · 11-18-2008, 10:08 AM

what are the panthers biggest draft needs

FirstAndGoal · 11-21-2008, 07:39 PM

i would say the biggest need is DT. It also depends on who we keep or don't keep in free agency. if we let go any one of the big three up for new contracts- peppers, gamble, and gross- that position would become a need. DE might be a need, although I'm hoping charles johnson can step it up and become the starter there.

dunagan15 · 11-24-2008, 08:07 PM

Just wanted to say great game Sunday. I was at the game and I can say your fans represented you guys well. Very nice people and really enjoyed cheering back and forth w/ them. Great sports.

ShutDwn · 11-25-2008, 10:09 AM

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Just wanted to say great game Sunday. I was at the game and I can say your fans represented you guys well. Very nice people and really enjoyed cheering back and forth w/ them. Great sports.

Yeah, we can't keep playing three quarters and try to win. I expected a loss soon though. Of course our bandwagon emptied quite a bit, because that is the logic I guess, rankings are simply who looked the best in week "x". What happened last week is a distant memory for them.

I am not panicking or freaking out until the next game.

SchizophrenicBatman · 11-26-2008, 11:57 AM

I was honestly a little happy with our performance Sunday. I expected a L unless Atlanta played like explosive diarrhea. Instead they came out and played about as good a game as you could want...and the Panthers didn't completely fold. Ok, they did in the first half but at least showed up in the 3rd quarter. Gave me hope that the body snatchers didn't visit the team during the bye. Regardless, props to the Falcons. Ryan is legit and I was completely wrong about him. That's all the credit I'm giving them though, since this tied the season series at 1-1 and both games were blowouts of similar margins

However, I do think this sets up Atlanta to take the division. There's nothing that can be done to stop it now with the Last->First karma. NO will beat Tampa next week making it even easier to see. And while I know our schedule looks scary, even at 8-3, I'm not that worried about the playoffs. I'll be a little worried if we lose to Green Bay, but even then we have plenty of time to get back in it. The big game is the second Tampa showdown...there's no way the South is getting both WC's with the Saints screwing things up so I figure that's where we play for the playoff spot

diabsoule · 11-28-2008, 02:25 PM

It's being reported on Fox Sports that Carolina and Chris Gamble have agreed to a contract extension.

ShutDwn · 11-28-2008, 03:28 PM

I don't really mind the money, seeing as I doubt we are even using the same deal in a few years.

Going into next year with Lucas, Marshall and probably a rookie playing would have been a disaster. Lucas is declining, and neither can stick with the leagues best.

ShutDwn · 11-30-2008, 03:22 PM

This team is so frustrating. I was getting pretty pissed that they were letting that game slip, but Steve Smith showed up when we need him most.

Defense needs to get better against these spread offenses, but it is so hard when the receivers are so good. We need more pressure straight up the middle and players getting their hands up. I wish we could put Hilee Taylor in and Johnson but those two I think need a little more development against the run.

Mark Jones, Steve Smith, DeAngelo Williams and Travelle freaking Wharton were heroes today.

SchizophrenicBatman · 11-30-2008, 04:06 PM

Yea, Taylor honestly isnt much better than McClover was at containing. He actually gets pressure in non-garbage time though, so that was a good decision to keep him

I'm pretty happy with Johnson. He came in really raw and still kinda is, but he's getting pressure solely by overpowering RTs now. Give him a couple years, maybe get Rucker to come back in as a coach and give him some of those combat lessons he learned over the years and he could be a monster

ShutDwn · 11-30-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SchizophrenicBatman

Yea, Taylor honestly isnt much better than McClover was at containing. He actually gets pressure in non-garbage time though, so that was a good decision to keep him

I'm pretty happy with Johnson. He came in really raw and still kinda is, but he's getting pressure solely by overpowering RTs now. Give him a couple years, maybe get Rucker to come back in as a coach and give him some of those combat lessons he learned over the years and he could be a monster

Hilee Taylor is so much better than McClover in my eyes, he doesn't rush the passer like he is 20 yards in the backfield.

Give those two a few years, along with a few draft picks, we will have a good rotation. I think Taylor is more of a liability against the run just because of size differential, he will learn how to better combat the bigger lineman, however he won't be able to really take them straight on.

GB12 · 11-30-2008, 07:42 PM

Your're welcome.

FirstAndGoal · 11-30-2008, 09:11 PM

well that was an interesting win. we really need to shore up the pass d. it cost us last week and almost cost us against arizona and green bay. but i'm pretty pleased with the other aspects of the game. delhomme still doesnt seem to be quite in rhythm but he wasnt bad. if he had just hit muhammad in stride on the first play it would have been a td. but the offense overall was good, the run d was okay, and the special teams were great (thanks, mark jones). so lets just work on the pass d. but we did win, and i feel better knowing that it was in snowy lambeau. but i'm afraid to see what cutler, garcia, manning, and brees are going to do against our secondary the rest of the way.

ShutDwn · 11-30-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstAndGoal

well that was an interesting win. we really need to shore up the pass d. it cost us last week and almost cost us against arizona and green bay. but i'm pretty pleased with the other aspects of the game. delhomme still doesnt seem to be quite in rhythm but he wasnt bad. if he had just hit muhammad in stride on the first play it would have been a td. but the offense overall was good, the run d was okay, and the special teams were great (thanks, mark jones). so lets just work on the pass d. but we did win, and i feel better knowing that it was in snowy lambeau. but i'm afraid to see what cutler, garcia, manning, and brees are going to do against our secondary the rest of the way.

Our pass defense is normally good, it is these offenses that spread us out and throw so quickly.

Jake needs to get his deep ball together, he overthrew a few guys. The run game was good though.

... · 12-01-2008, 04:50 PM

The problem with our pass defense is Trgovac. Our corners are always 50 yards away from the receivers and it really hinders their abilities. Atleast I think so.

ShutDwn · 12-02-2008, 09:20 AM

Too much is made of playing that far off. If they play up close like people want them too, they will get beaten deep a lot more often, a great example was the Packers against the Saints. Gamble can get up and challenge guys, but he doesn't have the experienced safety to back him up yet. Harris is good, but he is not a centerfielder. Cortland Finnegan gets away with it because he has Hope behind him.

Lucas and Marshall can't really get physical like Gamble can.

Pressure up the middle is the only way to stop quick throws like that, also the defensive line getting their hands up.

SchizophrenicBatman · 12-02-2008, 04:40 PM

Our corners have to play off this season because the coaches did what all the fans wanted and drafted a rookie safety

ShutDwn · 12-03-2008, 08:35 AM

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Our corners have to play off this season because the coaches did what all the fans wanted and drafted a rookie safety

Which, will honestly pay off in the long run. He has had issues, but he hasn't been any worse than whats his name starting for us last year.

We will need him a lot behind Lucas next year.

ShutDwn · 12-07-2008, 11:32 PM

This is a must win guys. We have to make our mark on this season.

ShutDwn · 12-08-2008, 11:24 PM

Great game.
I feel like we definitely have enough to fix for the next game in order to stay on our game.

The next game is as much a test as this one, this was pretty emotional.

SchizophrenicBatman · 12-09-2008, 12:58 AM

i could easily, easily see a letdown vs Denver

But we can afford it because we won the last two weeks. This game was huge in particular

I'm so glad we locked up Gamble btw. Lucas might be gone after this year and Marshall hasn't improved much since he came into the league

ShutDwn · 12-09-2008, 01:06 AM

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i could easily, easily see a letdown vs Denver

But we can afford it because we won the last two weeks. This game was huge in particular

I'm so glad we locked up Gamble btw. Lucas might be gone after this year and Marshall hasn't improved much since he came into the league

I think his bandwagon is getting a little lighter. This game was kind of what it our defense would have looked like on a consistent basis, getting shredded by Antonio Bryant.

Marshall needs to step it up, he has the skill, just needs focus. He is still very young, about as good as Gamble was at this stage I think.