Draft Countdown Forums

Go Back   Draft Countdown Forums > Draft Countdown Forums > Team Boards > Buffalo Bills Team Forum

Buffalo Bills Team Forum Discuss the Bills

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-05-2007, 02:26 PM    (permalink
art vandelay
Team Leader
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,592
Reputation: 5546
art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob S
Interesting stuff on JP:

J.P. Losman finished the season as the league's 11th best rated passer (84.9) ahead of QBs like Chad Pennington, Steve McNair, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselback, Ben Roethlisberger, Michael Vick, Rex Grossman and Brett Favre.

Losman was 7th in fourth quarter passer rating (89.7).

He was 9th in completion percentage (62.5), 11th in TDs and 11th in avg. gain per pass play.

Sounds to me like we have our QB
Dude, did you really not already know this? Before the last two games his passer rating was in the 90's. Obviously JP is our QB. Were you considering drafting another one? It's not even the stats though. He actually looks like an NFL QB on the field in terms of leadership, confidence and poise. He also has ridicuolus chemistry with Evans which helps as well. The only problem I have with JP is that he needs to cutdown on the boneheaded throws that he has made. Also, with the Bears game, it kinda seemed like he lost his head. Other than that, I love JP and have been his biggest supporter for a while now.
art vandelay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 02:45 PM    (permalink
Rob S
Suck it Metsox
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark haired women and breakfast food
Posts: 24,404
Reputation: 4138963
Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by art vandelay
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob S
Interesting stuff on JP:

J.P. Losman finished the season as the league's 11th best rated passer (84.9) ahead of QBs like Chad Pennington, Steve McNair, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselback, Ben Roethlisberger, Michael Vick, Rex Grossman and Brett Favre.

Losman was 7th in fourth quarter passer rating (89.7).

He was 9th in completion percentage (62.5), 11th in TDs and 11th in avg. gain per pass play.

Sounds to me like we have our QB
Dude, did you really not already know this? Before the last two games his passer rating was in the 90's. Obviously JP is our QB. Were you considering drafting another one? It's not even the stats though. He actually looks like an NFL QB on the field in terms of leadership, confidence and poise. He also has ridicuolus chemistry with Evans which helps as well. The only problem I have with JP is that he needs to cutdown on the boneheaded throws that he has made. Also, with the Bears game, it kinda seemed like he lost his head. Other than that, I love JP and have been his biggest supporter for a while now.
I knew he had a good passer rating, but had no clue he was pretty much top 10 in every category.
__________________
When I eat, it is the food that is scared.
Rob S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 07:02 PM    (permalink
fischbowl
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NYC Proud, Go Bills
Posts: 11,366
Reputation: 1437052
fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

What would y'all think about trading down and getting Eric Weddle?
__________________



<+fenikz> "**** the Police, ride my fischstache bitches"
fischbowl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 07:10 PM    (permalink
SuperMcGee
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 40 light-years outside of the Buttermilk Nebula
Posts: 25,089
Reputation: 5281854
SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fischbowl
What would y'all think about trading down and getting Eric Weddle?
He's certainly the type of guy we'd go after - plays above what's expected of him, great character, can just flat out play the game. Also fits a most likely need. Seems like more of a guy that we'd trade up from the 2nd for a la McCargo than down from the first if we did any such thing. Doubt it happens, but I put nothing past our guys when they find a guy they like, and Weddle seems like he could be just that. I'd rather just wait it out and hope for a guy like Weddle or Hughes to be there in the second round.
SuperMcGee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 08:26 PM    (permalink
DWhitner20
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 642
Reputation: 10
DWhitner20 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

What would you guys think of drafting Marshawn Lynch?
DWhitner20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 08:38 PM    (permalink
BuffaloDraftGeek
Rookie
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 325
Reputation: 61
BuffaloDraftGeek hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DWhitner20
What would you guys think of drafting Marshawn Lynch?
I think it'd be a pretty bad idea since mcgahee is still under contract for one more year.
BuffaloDraftGeek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 08:47 PM    (permalink
DWhitner20
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 642
Reputation: 10
DWhitner20 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffaloDraftGeek
Quote:
Originally Posted by DWhitner20
What would you guys think of drafting Marshawn Lynch?
I think it'd be a pretty bad idea since mcgahee is still under contract for one more year.
Bad idea to have a replacment with expirience ready?
DWhitner20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 09:49 PM    (permalink
Space Ghost
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Snape dies killing Voldemort so Harry can live.
Posts: 1,488
Reputation: 83
Space Ghost hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DWhitner20
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffaloDraftGeek
Quote:
Originally Posted by DWhitner20
What would you guys think of drafting Marshawn Lynch?
I think it'd be a pretty bad idea since mcgahee is still under contract for one more year.
Bad idea to have a replacment with expirience ready?
Bad idea to not fill an area of need with a first round pick.
Space Ghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 11:34 PM    (permalink
art vandelay
Team Leader
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,592
Reputation: 5546
art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DWhitner20
What would you guys think of drafting Marshawn Lynch?
That would be an absoultely horrible pick. While I do not like McGahee, I think that we should spend a mid-late round RB to push him.
art vandelay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2007, 11:55 PM    (permalink
rocco31fb
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,233
Reputation: 16
rocco31fb hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by art vandelay
Quote:
Originally Posted by DWhitner20
What would you guys think of drafting Marshawn Lynch?
That would be an absoultely horrible pick. While I do not like McGahee, I think that we should spend a mid-late round RB to push him.
I would rather find a Leon Washington/Mike Bell than draft an already crowned talent.
__________________

Thanks eaglez.fan
rocco31fb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 12:14 AM    (permalink
SuperMcGee
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 40 light-years outside of the Buttermilk Nebula
Posts: 25,089
Reputation: 5281854
SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

well everyone would like some of their stars to come as later picks, thats base of a good team from within. But we can't just hope to get lucky like that. Washington and Bell aren't even full starters anyway, and our Willis situation would call for one of those for the future if we so needed another RB
SuperMcGee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 11:39 AM    (permalink
art vandelay
Team Leader
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,592
Reputation: 5546
art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rocco31fb
Quote:
Originally Posted by art vandelay
Quote:
Originally Posted by DWhitner20
What would you guys think of drafting Marshawn Lynch?
That would be an absoultely horrible pick. While I do not like McGahee, I think that we should spend a mid-late round RB to push him.
I would rather find a Leon Washington/Mike Bell than draft an already crowned talent.
I love Lorenzo Booker. However, I don't think we are very intent on getting our RB's involved in the passing game. It seems we like big bruising backs to move the chains and pick up first downs to set up the big pass play.
art vandelay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 01:08 PM    (permalink
drmoyer421
Rookie
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 368
Reputation: 58
drmoyer421 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMcgee
well everyone would like some of their stars to come as later picks, thats base of a good team from within. But we can't just hope to get lucky like that. Washington and Bell aren't even full starters anyway, and our Willis situation would call for one of those for the future if we so needed another RB
I really dont care either way about our RB issue, because I think our defensive problems far exceed.
but..
We could re-sign Anthony Thomas, then trade McGahee for a first day pick. Then the Bills could run a duo back system like in Indy or Jacksonville. With an older veteran RB and a young RB, until the younger RB could handle more of the work and is accustom to the blocking in the NFL
drmoyer421 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 01:49 PM    (permalink
Space Ghost
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Snape dies killing Voldemort so Harry can live.
Posts: 1,488
Reputation: 83
Space Ghost hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

I think we just resign Willis this off season long-term (5 years) so that once he is 30 we can wave bye bye and pick up a new guy. I don't really see why you guys want to get rid of him, sure we have Thomas, his yards per carry are worse, we could draft a day one back, not likely this year, this years running back class blows. Willis is almost averaging 4 yards behind a pretty average offensive line and he was hurt for a few games this year. He missed some games and still got 990 yards on the ground. I don't see a problem with Willis and believe that if we let him go we will pay for it. He is only 25 and hitting his prime. He has also switched running styles from speedy slasher to power and back to speedy slasher, once he gets settled back into his natural speedy slasher role that he worked his way into this year he should be a lot better, especially if we can find a suitable right guard.
Space Ghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 02:33 PM    (permalink
SuperMcGee
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 40 light-years outside of the Buttermilk Nebula
Posts: 25,089
Reputation: 5281854
SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Things like "averaging almost 4 yards a carry" are not the type of things that impress, especially considering how much he may eventually want for a new deal. RB is not something to largely act on now, but there are those who have their doubts about Willis for as soon as this upcoming season. Anthony Thomas obviously isnt the answer, but we'll just have to wait and see on what is, Willis or not, because nobody knows what we plan on doing with McGahee. I'm not hoping for or predicting anything right now because Willis has disappointed me but still has great talent and like I said, who really knows?
SuperMcGee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 02:59 PM    (permalink
Rob S
Suck it Metsox
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark haired women and breakfast food
Posts: 24,404
Reputation: 4138963
Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Willis is going to want top 5 money, he is barely top 15 imo and may not be.
__________________
When I eat, it is the food that is scared.
Rob S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 03:04 PM    (permalink
fischbowl
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NYC Proud, Go Bills
Posts: 11,366
Reputation: 1437052
fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.fischbowl is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Fischbowl Bills Mock:

((Pictures To Come))

*Franchise Nate, Trade Him for A Second
**Trade Denney for a 5th, With Hargrove, I do Not Believe Denney is a factor unless Kelsay leaves
***Trade Down In First Round Acquire A Second

1. Eric Weddle, DB, Utah

2a. Brandon Siler, MLB, Florida

2b. Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame

2c. Joe Staley, OT, CMU

3. Stephen Nicholas, LB, USF

4. Daniel Bazuin, DE, CMU (Falling In My Opinion Due to Great DE Class)

5. Arkee Whitlock, RB, Southern Illinois

6. Lyle Sendlein, C, Texas

7. Chad Upshaw, TE, Buffalo
__________________



<+fenikz> "**** the Police, ride my fischstache bitches"
fischbowl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 03:09 PM    (permalink
SuperMcGee
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 40 light-years outside of the Buttermilk Nebula
Posts: 25,089
Reputation: 5281854
SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Eh. It all makes sense I guess but nothing excites me about it too much. The CMU boys and Upshaw would be cool, though
SuperMcGee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 04:13 PM    (permalink
drmoyer421
Rookie
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 368
Reputation: 58
drmoyer421 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Dr. Z of SI wrote an article the other day about the best players at each posistion in the NFL.

There were two Bills who made it.
Brian Moorman as the #1 Punter
Jason Peters as the #4 OT

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ros/index.html
drmoyer421 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 04:32 PM    (permalink
SuperMcGee
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 40 light-years outside of the Buttermilk Nebula
Posts: 25,089
Reputation: 5281854
SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I disagree with a lot of it, but Jason Peters getting top tier recognition is unheard of, so great article!
SuperMcGee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 07:50 PM    (permalink
Jimmy
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Boston
Posts: 6,273
Reputation: 146412
Jimmy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Jimmy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Jimmy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Jimmy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Jimmy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Jimmy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Jimmy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Jimmy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Jimmy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Jimmy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Jimmy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

hey i have a question i know at least 1 of u wants wilson, but eactly how fast is he
Jimmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 08:31 PM    (permalink
Space Ghost
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Snape dies killing Voldemort so Harry can live.
Posts: 1,488
Reputation: 83
Space Ghost hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy
hey i have a question i know at least 1 of u wants wilson, but eactly how fast is he
Josh Wilson?
Space Ghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 10:26 PM    (permalink
art vandelay
Team Leader
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,592
Reputation: 5546
art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.art vandelay wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Space Ghost
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy
hey i have a question i know at least 1 of u wants wilson, but eactly how fast is he
Josh Wilson?
He runs a 4.3
art vandelay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 10:39 PM    (permalink
BuffaloDraftGeek
Rookie
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 325
Reputation: 61
BuffaloDraftGeek hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

What do you guys think of Nick Harper? He can play the C2 scheme, and while he would only be a stop-gap, it would give us time to see what we have in youboty.
BuffaloDraftGeek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2007, 10:56 PM    (permalink
DWhitner20
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 642
Reputation: 10
DWhitner20 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffaloDraftGeek
What do you guys think of Nick Harper? He can play the C2 scheme, and while he would only be a stop-gap, it would give us time to see what we have in youboty.
That would actually be really good, he's a solid starter and can let Youboty work his way in.
DWhitner20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.