Does it really even matter?

Achilles33 · 05-07-2007, 07:06 PM

If Cleveland gives us a top 3 pick anyway? I doubt we use it. Because we will be a playoff team, maybe SB champs, and Jerry will probably deal it for a ton of picks and players. So I don't think the McFadden dream has a chance....

Any thoughts?

D-Unit · 05-07-2007, 07:13 PM

I agree. Nothing you say really matters.

KILLERSANTA · 05-07-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit

I agree. Nothing you say really matters.

Burn!
...............

Paul · 05-07-2007, 10:46 PM

D-Unit with the zinger.

neko4 · 05-07-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles33

Because we will be a playoff team, maybe SB champs,

I dont even wanna try and argue against this great prediction
Playoffs...sure
but super bowl is at this point a dream, let alone champs w/ how well the AFC has done

Burns336 · 05-08-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit

I agree. Nothing you say really matters.

ahahahahahahhaa

Achilles33 · 05-08-2007, 04:24 PM

We have a great chance to get to the SB. And I don't care how bad the rest of the NFC is, we could compete with any AFC team as well, and win. Your saying the AFC has the SB wrapped up???

lol, good one.

cowboyz · 05-08-2007, 06:14 PM

JJ mentioned that he made a mistake trading down when he had a good time to get more players and he should've been trying to acquire quality over quantity.

D-Unit · 05-08-2007, 06:26 PM

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JJ mentioned that he made a mistake trading down when he had a good time to get more players and he should've been trying to acquire quality over quantity.

Nice to hear some admittance. Where did he say that? He should've tried to trade up that numbskull.

Achilles33 · 05-08-2007, 06:50 PM

I'll take McFadden or Stewart next year and Spencer over CJ or Peterson. Easily.

Oh and Marion Barber is also a FA next year as well, so I don't see any way we don't go RB will the browns pick.

Burns336 · 05-09-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Achilles33

I'll take McFadden or Stewart next year and Spencer over CJ or Peterson. Easily.

Oh and Marion Barber is also a FA next year as well, so I don't see any way we don't go RB will the browns pick.

What if spencer sucks and CJ/peterson end up being future hall of famers. The problem is that you make posts without any evidence. You pretty much pull whatever you want out of your ass at any given time and write it. Plus what if julius plays like he did in those 8 games as a rookie and barber stays consistent but we feel the need to get an NT or Corner or Wr or FS?? You dont know how any of these variables will play out and you will never admit when you are wrong. You are just ignorant....not to mention a moron.

reigle9 · 05-09-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles33

If Cleveland gives us a top 3 pick anyway? I doubt we use it. Because we will be a playoff team, maybe SB champs, and Jerry will probably deal it for a ton of picks and players. So I don't think the McFadden dream has a chance....

Any thoughts?

That is one big contradiction. If we have the talent to get to the SB, then why would we want a bunch of mid-level players over one superstar to make us that much stronger?

Achilles33 · 05-09-2007, 02:08 PM

Hey, I am against it as well. I just think Jerry will do it.

dc4life · 05-09-2007, 05:52 PM

I think we use it depending who's there. For instance we have a CHANCE of losing the following players next season.

Flozell
Romo
Barber
Jones
Crayton

Colombo in 2 years.
Newman in a year.
TO in 1 year? Terry Glenn in 2-3?
Anthony Henry is another possibility.

The rookies we drafted could step in and fill the voids, but im not banking on it (with the exception of Spencer)

Burns336 · 05-10-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dc4life

I think we use it depending who's there. For instance we have a CHANCE of losing the following players next season.

Flozell
Romo
Barber
Jones
Crayton

Colombo in 2 years.
Newman in a year.
TO in 1 year? Terry Glenn in 2-3?
Anthony Henry is another possibility.

The rookies we drafted could step in and fill the voids, but im not banking on it (with the exception of Spencer)

dont forget to mention the possibility of us getting rid of Ellis/James. Ellis may suck coming back from the injury and James is too expensive to ride pine.

dc4life · 05-10-2007, 04:29 PM

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dont forget to mention the possibility of us getting rid of Ellis/James. Ellis may suck coming back from the injury and James is too expensive to ride pine.

True, forgot about those two!

cowboyz · 05-10-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit

Nice to hear some admittance. Where did he say that? He should've tried to trade up that numbskull.

he said it during his pre-draft press conference discussing strategy.

Achilles33 · 05-10-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Burns336

What if spencer sucks and CJ/peterson end up being future hall of famers. The problem is that you make posts without any evidence. You pretty much pull whatever you want out of your ass at any given time and write it. Plus what if julius plays like he did in those 8 games as a rookie and barber stays consistent but we feel the need to get an NT or Corner or Wr or FS?? You dont know how any of these variables will play out and you will never admit when you are wrong. You are just ignorant....not to mention a moron.

What you just posted makes no sense, moron. What if CJ and Peterson suck and Spencer and the player we get with the Browns pick are HOFers? You can't say that. As prospects and draft picks, I would take Spencer and a top 10 pick over CJ or Peterson any day of the week. You post made no sense.

Burns336 · 05-10-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles33

What you just posted makes no sense, moron. What if CJ and Peterson suck and Spencer and the player we get with the Browns pick are HOFers? You can't say that. As prospects and draft picks, I would take Spencer and a top 10 pick over CJ or Peterson any day of the week. You post made no sense.

you just made my point for me, idiot. All we know for sure right now is that we know nothing. All of these players are "what if's", so for you to say you would take Spencer and a top-10 pick over CJ/Peterson is moronic because either one of those players (cj/peterson) COULD turn out to be 10X better than spencer and the pick. The point is you dont know, no one knows, and everyone on this board is sick of listening to your speculation and stupid analysis on why you would or wouldn't do something. A comment like "I'll take McFadden or Stewart next year and Spencer over CJ or Peterson. Easily." Is dumb and holds no weight with anyone at all because it has ZERO factual basis and is simply your opinion. Stop polluting the boards with your idiotic opinions and homerism.

Achilles33 · 05-11-2007, 04:58 PM

Exactly. So right now would you rather have Spencer and a top 10 pick, or CJ/Peterson?

Which would you rather have? I would rather have spencer and a top 10 pick. That is all I am saying. I would rather have a great pass rusher and an elite player next year over CJ or peterson this year, thats just me.

Idiot.

Burns336 · 05-11-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles33

Exactly. So right now would you rather have Spencer and a top 10 pick, or CJ/Peterson?

Which would you rather have? I would rather have spencer and a top 10 pick. That is all I am saying. I would rather have a great pass rusher and an elite player next year over CJ or peterson this year, thats just me.

Idiot.

This year? Id much rather have Peterson/CJ, their value is sky high above spencers and anything having to do with that pick is speculation. How do you know its a top ten pick anyways? I forgot you had a crystal ball. More than likely it will be, but you never know. You're not going to win this battle against me, or any battle against anyone for that matter. Give up dip ****.

Achilles33 · 05-11-2007, 05:24 PM

What freakin battle? Your an idiot. I'll take a pass rusher and a top 10 pick next year over a dominant WR because WR's don't do crap, you can win a SB with average WR's, and RB's are in there prime for about 4 years. You have no chance in thios battle, if that is what you want to call it.

Burns336 · 05-11-2007, 07:53 PM

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What freakin battle? Your an idiot. I'll take a pass rusher and a top 10 pick next year over a dominant WR because WR's don't do crap, you can win a SB with average WR's, and RB's are in there prime for about 4 years. You have no chance in thios battle, if that is what you want to call it.

You're absolutly right tnew, I have now seen the light. What was I thinking when I gave credit to Irvin and Emmitt for being key factors in our SB's of the 90's. We didnt need a stupid clutch reciever or a stupid 4 year prime RB... A pass rush specialist and a future draft pick would have probably won us 4, maybe even 5 SB's in a row!!! Stupid triplets only won 3 out of 4 years...Good thing Emmitt was in his "4 year prime" in the early 90's or else we may have completely screwed..

So sticking with your theory, I guess since running backs are only in their prime for 4 years are you sure you still want McFadden next year or do you think we should go somwhere with some longevity? I mean we should add some guys that will have a longer prime than just 4 years if we want to win the SB every year right?

Hey man, thanks for reasoning with me, once again you have made some seriously well thought out points that have totally changed the way I think. You're great!

Achilles33 · 05-12-2007, 06:16 AM

Well smart ass, if it wasn't for Charles Haley, we wouldn't have even been in those super bowls. We can get a RB or WR next year, plus a great pass rush. It is a pretty easy choice to me.

And I am not saying all RBs die in 4 years, but AD will. He is going to be in a wheel chair when his career is over the way he plays. McFadden is much better at shielding his body. Jonathan Stewart is even better.

Nice try though.

robert_in_bigd · 05-12-2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Achilles33

If Cleveland gives us a top 3 pick anyway? I doubt we use it. Because we will be a playoff team, maybe SB champs, and Jerry will probably deal it for a ton of picks and players. So I don't think the McFadden dream has a chance....

Any thoughts?

SHOULD: should depend on need and talent available. If you can trade down a few slots (like Atlanta) and pick up 2 rounders while still getting your guy sure. For example, trade down Cleveland pick while getting a Long or Baker type or maybe a Frank Okam (assuming he is not the next great overhyped Texas DT bust).

Jerry's problemm is sometimes likes to trade for sake of trading. Like an addict with a bong. For example, the Philly trade.