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Old 02-23-2007, 10:34 PM    (permalink
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not worth anywhere near what he'll cost.

Yeah and where do you expect that to be in terms of draft pick wise?
2 or 3?
1 and 3. he'll likely get the high tender, and further, even if it's a sign and trade, he'll cost at least a first.
Ouch, He would be great for our system too.
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Look good in a Broncos uniform.
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Look good in a Broncos uniform.

That's insane, I can't wait to see him at the combine. I hope we draft a safety in the 3-4 range. Or we could sign a FA like Gibril Wilson who's a bright young star.
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Nash was a great player, and i hate so sound like im jumping on the
"feel sorry for him" bandwagon, but i always thought that he played like Terell Davis, in a sense that he seemed like a great cutback runner. All I remember when he had a 25 yard run one time is that he showed patience agility, speed and power. I honestly thought he was the only bronco that stood any chance of becoming an average starter in this league, but we wont get to see him make a run for the starting job this offseason.
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:11 AM    (permalink
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1. Trade a 3rd Round Pick and George Foster to Detroit for Dr. Dre Bly. (Throw in Ta-Bum Bell if you have too) With as bad as their OL is and Kevin Jones still out this deal is too sweet for New Orleans or Washington to match.
2. Trade Jake Plummer to Houston for a 4th.
3. Sign the Kearney. If he is too pricey, get Adalius Thomas.

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1st – No need to trade up. Gaines Adams and Jamal Anderson will be long gone. And Akoye and Branch will be gone as well. But one if not both Carriker or Charles Johnson - DE’s will be there. Either of them are strong enough to be every down players with Kearny on the other side, and Dumerville pass rush specialist.

2nd – RB or DT. If Michael Bush or Antonio Pittman are available you take one of them to come in and compete with Mike Bell. If they are both gone you look at 2nd round DT Tank Tyler would be a steal if he is not there, McBean will be. He and Warren will clog the lanes, and we have Veal for depth.

3rd – DT or RB – If we get RB in Bush or Pittman in the 2nd, Marcus Thomas is a beast of a DT we can land in the third. If we didn’t get a RB in the second and landed a DT instead, then we draft the best RB available here to compete with Mike Bell, I like Brandon Jackson here and should most likely be available. If not DeShawn Wynn or Lorenzo Booker will be.

4th - (from trading Plummer to Houston)– WR/KR – I haven’t gotten this deep into WR’s yet to give ideas as too who, but someone to come in and compete with Hixon and Morgan to return kicks and provide some depth at WR. This is the perfect round to look another Devin Hester type.

4th – Safety – I know they like Abdullah, and Curome Cox, I do as well. But everyone seems to believe we are going to add some youth at Safety, then please make it in the 5th, and not higher, we have more pressing needs at RB and DL.

5/6/7th – Best available. We can add some depth at OT since we’ve traded Foster, and a special teams demon and reserve LB wouldn’t hurt. Plus Why NOT Tyrone Moss or Danny Ware? Both had promising college horizons and both were sidetracked. I believe they can be the next Frank Gore, so if we can land one of them late in the draft, despite taking a RB on day one, do it. Mike Bell, Michael Bush, and Danny Ware or Bell, Pittman, and Moss…. We can find a RB to get it done in 07 with that group.

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i don't like any of the second tier RBs (evidenced by the forum mock). i think we'd be better served addressing a different position if we're not in a position to get lynch in the first, then grab a 6th or 7th round guy, where i feel the value is terrific for denver-type backs. this is just a weak year to try to get a runner who would make a major impact in the second. i still HATE trading a 3rd for bly.
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Hey,

Can someone tell me the contract status of George Foster and Tatum Bell? They were just traded to Detroit for Dre Bly . . .

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Can a Broncos fan tell me who their RT will be next season, & whom Mike Bell will be sharing time with?
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Can a Broncos fan tell me who their RT will be next season, & whom Mike Bell will be sharing time with?
RT - likely Meadows or Pears (assuming Lepsis returns to LT)

RB - will probably come from the draft
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RT - likely Meadows or Pears (assuming Lepsis returns to LT)

RB - will probably come from the draft

I can't believe Meadows is even back in the league let alone competing for a starting spot. Wow! Good trade, best of luck in the draft. I am thinking you guys take Darius Walker @ the next DEN RB.
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I can't believe Meadows is even back in the league let alone competing for a starting spot. Wow! Good trade, best of luck in the draft. I am thinking you guys take Darius Walker @ the next DEN RB.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the draft in terms of RB. Assuming the reports are correct (Bell + Foster + 5th round pick), we've got 4 picks in the first 3 rounds, then don't pick again until the 6th. I'm not sure Walker's good value in the 3rd, and I doubt he'll still be available in the 6th.
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It will be interesting to see what happens in the draft in terms of RB. Assuming the reports are correct (Bell + Foster + 5th round pick), we've got 4 picks in the first 3 rounds, then don't pick again until the 6th. I'm not sure Walker's good value in the 3rd, and I doubt he'll still be available in the 6th.
Darius is great value in the third. I think he's worth a late 2nd rounder. Plus, Walker is a good RB fit for the ZBS. Who knows? DEN has had success w/ late round backs, so DEN might not look at a RB til Day 2.
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Do you guys think you would go after Jamal Lewis?
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I pray to god NO Jamal Lewis!

*See washed up Eddie George's career with Dallas...

No JAMAL no JAMAL NO!

I'm still loving Kolby Smith, and now with his 40 better then expected, that wishful pick might be ruined for me. I don't know if he'll make it out of the 4th, and too high for our 3rd round picks.
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Lol. I tend to agree... baggage, injuries, declining performance and probably looking for big $$$... doesn't sound like a good fit.
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How could you want plummer in TB after he says he may want to retire rather than play there. Talk about the "right" attitude going into camp.
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More reason to hate Jake "the fake" Plummer. A 4th rounder would have been good trade bait.
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So we got rid of plummer for a conditional draft pick next year, then we get Dan Wilkinson in exchange for a 6th http://profootballtalk.com/

We also get rid of two players in Shanahan's dog house, (Tatum and Foster) and we get a talented but "troubled" corner.

I certainly give Shanahan and the staff a great deal of credit for trying and making aggressive moves on players, rather than just sitting and waiting. Now all we need is a starting RB, a starting DE, and a young DT to groom behind these guys, offensive line starter or backup if you like who we have to replace Foster, and of course my opinion about how we need to get rid of Lynch and get a starting safety (with a solid safety depth in the draft for the second round).
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Get rid of Lynch? Lynch is still solid, and should be at SS, but he is our best coverage safety so he is at FS. We do need to go the safety route though, Lynch and Ferguson are old and will need to be replaced. I think Sam Brandon could turn out to be a solid Safety, losing him hurt last year.
I also like the trade for Wilkinson, gives us another rotational guy at DT and he is a big guy who can plug the line and stuff the run.
So far I'm liking the moves this offseason. Just sign Graham, Kerney and a RB, and draft DE, S and DT in the draft and I'll be happy.
Imagine if we line up next year like this:
QB:
Cutler, backup: Brad Johnson(?)
RB:
Travis Henry, backup: Mike Bell
FB:
Cecil Sapp, backup: Kyle Johnson
WR:
Javon Walker, Brandon Marshall, backups: Rod Smith, David Kircus
TE:
Daniel Graham, Tony Scheffler and backup: Chad Mustard
LT:
Matt Lepsis
LG:
Ben Hamilton
C:
Nalen
RG:
Chris Kuper(think he wins the battle)
RT:
Eric Pears(think he wins over Meadows)

Defense:
DE's:
Patrick Kerney and Kenard Lang starting, backups: Dumervil, rookie(Carriker? Charles Johnson? Crowder? Moss?), Ekuban
DT:
Gerrard Warren and Dan Wilkinson, backups: rookie(Pitcock? Mebane?), Veal, Burton and Ekuban can rotate in
OLB:
Ian Gold and DJ Williams starting, backups:
MLB:
Al Wilson, Backup: Nate Webster
CB:
Champ and Bly backups: Foxworth and Paymah
FS:
Lynch, backup: Brandon, Cox, rookie(Griffen? Merriwether? Weddle?)
SS:
Ferguson, backup: Brandon, Cox, rookie(Griffen? Merriwether? Weddle?)

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Travis Henry is gross.




I am going to be pretty upset if he is our starting runningback next year
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Gross? He's a consistent runner who gets yards after contact unlike Tatum did and had a pretty good year last year behind a dismal Tennessee Titans line.
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i am sooo pissed. Travis Henry is gross... i hate his style. Its really gonna be a struggle for me to support him. Hes old slow and just boring. ugh, i want a game breaking back if we are gonna pay 22.5 mill on a back. He is a slightly more talented rueben droughns. Hes gonna get the job done... but its just gonna be so lame...

hes also 28. We better get a young back next year (slayton, rice, or god willing McFadden).
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Project, dont know what your talking about, you guys got a hell of a runningback in Henry, who is going to be able to pound the ball 25 times a game and will fit into the zone blocking scheme well. Im calling that Henry will run for 1400 yards this season. You guys are set on offense with Cutler, Walker, Marshall, Henry and Scheffler; of course your defense is awsome and now even better with Bly...I think though you need someone to protect Cutler;s blindside and maybe a DE, my 2 cents
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ya,ya, i know ive cooled down a little bit. Henry will be pretty productive, its just ive never really been impressed by him, out of buffalo he looked solid, looked decent in tennessee, and i know hes gonna be a productive broncos, i think im just upset because there is other prospects that could of been all-stars, like 1,700 yards 15+ TD's in our system.

I take it back... i over reacted.
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