Denver Broncos Discussion

[Morton]

McDaniels is actually not that bad of a coach, if he sticks to offensive stuff.

The problem is that he is a terrible drafter and roster manager.

[Diehard]

Originally Posted by Morton

The problem is that he is a terrible drafter and roster manager.

So was Shanahan.

McD actually made some decent individual picks in the last draft. My issue is with his overall strategy.

[njx9]

edited. need to remember to take deep breaths before discussing mcdaniels.

[Jimmy]

we can only hope. not to start planning for next season or anything.. but now is the time of the year when i start to salivate over our potential first round selection.

[Diehard]

Originally Posted by njx9

edited. need to remember to take deep breaths before discussing mcdaniels.

We all know McD is a lying *****, an egotistical **** and a ****-spewing **********. Those obvious things can go unsaid, to allow whatever the actual discussion point is to be expressed... <grin>

[Jimmy]

Originally Posted by Diehard

We all know McD is a lying *****, an egotistical **** and a ****-spewing **********.

He's a lying *****, an egotistical **** and a ****-spewing, cheating **********.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...Denver_Broncos

[Diehard]

If there is any fire to go with this smoke, McD is done.

[njx9]

seriously? lol.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

So Josh got the first part of being a Bill disciple down by recording opponents. Unfortunately he forgot the critical second step of winning the game. That's kind of pathetic.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by Diehard

We all know McD is a lying *****, an egotistical **** and a ****-spewing **********. Those obvious things can go unsaid, to allow whatever the actual discussion point is to be expressed... <grin>

it's nearly impossible now to really keep a straight face when discussing the team. it's either overwhelming anger, or maniacal laughter (thanks bouncing souls).

[Diehard]

More **** today. Glad to see the stadium empty out at halftime - that's pretty much the only message Bowlen & Ellis will take seriously.

Typical Orton out there - played great whent there was no pressure, but anytime we really needed a clutch play he choked.

McD's playcalling is too often total crap - those pass,pass,pass,punt sequences when the Rams were building on their momentum were killers. We give up on the run way too easily.

The defense sucks balls. A few guys out there are trying (e.g. Joe Mays) but the rest are just going through the motions. The aging veterans are some of the worst perpetrators... I won't be sad to see them go in the offseason.

The only hope that remains is for new leadership.

[BamaFalcon59]

Originally Posted by Diehard

More **** today. Glad to see the stadium empty out at halftime - that's pretty much the only message Bowlen & Ellis will take seriously.

Typical Orton out there - played great whent there was no pressure, but anytime we really needed a clutch play he choked.

McD's playcalling is too often total crap - those pass,pass,pass,punt sequences when the Rams were building on their momentum were killers. We give up on the run way too easily.

The defense sucks balls. A few guys out there are trying (e.g. Joe Mays) but the rest are just going through the motions. The aging veterans are some of the worst perpetrators... I won't be sad to see them go in the offseason.

The only hope that remains is for new leadership.

You know what name is simultaneous with leadership? I do!

[njx9]

no one on the coaching staff should be spared. fire every single one of them. fire everyone in the front office. if we're starting over, we might as well start over properly and bring in some people who aren't abject failures.

i knew i should've gone skiing today.

[Timbathia]

I just cant get over how bad the defense is. I just hope that whoever the coach is next year now truly understands how badly we need to draft some talent on that side of that ball.

[njx9]

nah. we need to alienate our entire offense, so we can get rid of them and start over there.

[Jimmy]

well on the bright side, mcdaniels is that much closer to getting canned..

[BamaFalcon59]

You guys think McDaniels is out before Tebow gets a shot?

[njx9]

Originally Posted by BamaFalcon59

You guys think McDaniels is out before Tebow gets a shot?

yes. because mcdaniels will put off tebow getting a shot as long as humanly possible. and there's no way denver stays remotely competitive for that long.

[Timbathia]

Originally Posted by BamaFalcon59

You guys think McDaniels is out before Tebow gets a shot?

I say no. McDaniels will be there next year along with Orton, but once we are out of playoff contention Tebow will get his shot. Best guess he starts in round 12 2011 (if there is a 2011 season that is).

[Diehard]

The vultures are circling...

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_16734431

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/j...broncos-112910

Originally Posted by ESPN INSIDER

It's been a bad few days for Denver Broncos coach Josh McDaniels, having been hit with a $50,000 fine for one of his staffers illegally taping a San Francisco 49ers walk-through earlier this year, and then losing to the St. Louis Rams Sunday by a score of 36-33.

As a result, the storm clouds are beginning to hover over his job security. Mike Kiszla of the Denver Post writes that McDaniels keeps moving "closer to the unemployment line," and that he "might be the most reviled man in Denver."

Peter King of Sports Illustrated writes that he wonders if the videotaping incident could end up being "the final straw" for McDaniels. If the Broncos can't get something of a winning streak together to end the season, it certainly doesn't look great for McDaniels.

If a coaching change ends up being made, it will be interesting to see what the new regime will choose to do with rookie QB Tim Tebow.

[njx9]

hopefully mcdaniels gets canned before the end of the season, if it's going to be this year. let whoever takes over in the interim actually play tebow, so that question at least has a potential answer.

[Cunningham]

bowlen says mcdaniels will be back for '11
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/11/29/j...os-owner-says/

we really need to bring in a legit gm or someone who could play the role of a czar, someone like marty schottenheimer

[njx9]

and fire everyone on josh's coaching staff.

regardless, what bowlen says is generally irrelevant. as sad as it may be, he probably won't remember having said it tomorrow.

also, the comments to that article had me laughing...

"I am not sure how I feel about this, but I can say for sure, if McDaniels doesn't learn how to properly use a running back of the caliber of Moreno, then he needs to stop coaching."

[Cunningham]

Originally Posted by njx9

and fire everyone on josh's coaching staff.

regardless, what bowlen says is generally irrelevant. as sad as it may be, he probably won't remember having said it tomorrow.

yep. it pretty much doesn't mean **** when an owner gives the dreaded vote of confidence

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

Originally Posted by njx9

and fire everyone on josh's coaching staff.

regardless, what bowlen says is generally irrelevant. as sad as it may be, he probably won't remember having said it tomorrow.

also, the comments to that article had me laughing...

"I am not sure how I feel about this, but I can say for sure, if McDaniels doesn't learn how to properly use a running back of the caliber of Moreno, then he needs to stop coaching."

To be fair to the commenter, maybe he meant proper use of a RB of Moreno's calibre is placing him comfortably on the bench.