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I will definitely say our run game lost some of its luster when Johnson wasn't back there. I'm actually pretty confident in how Benson will play this year.

I'm still annoyed we don't have a solid kick returner.

Supposedly it's been a while since the Bengals have even been in contact with Smiths agent, ugh. Here we go again. Granted, I'm plenty confident in Anthony Collins... That's not the problem. I'm just annoyed to not have our first rounder in camp again.

It does kinda get annoying constantly not having the first rounders in camp, or having them hold out every year. Keith was in camp pretty early last year wasn't he? But yea Anthony Collins will do fine. I kind of think thats why they moved Whitworth out to Tackle because they know behind Collins they don't have another Tackle will be able to fill the void. So they were expecting the holdout from Andre Smith, played him with first string in OTA's to maybe try and get him excited to play and sign right away and for less money...
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A guy on the Bengals Message board found this article on NFL.com and its actually a nice read. Some interesting things in there.

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It does kinda get annoying constantly not having the first rounders in camp, or having them hold out every year. Keith was in camp pretty early last year wasn't he? But yea Anthony Collins will do fine. I kind of think thats why they moved Whitworth out to Tackle because they know behind Collins they don't have another Tackle will be able to fill the void. So they were expecting the holdout from Andre Smith, played him with first string in OTA's to maybe try and get him excited to play and sign right away and for less money...
Keith was out 10 days I believe. Like I said before, blame the Raiders as they paid DHB way too much over last years 7th pick.
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Keith was out 10 days I believe. Like I said before, blame the Raiders as they paid DHB way too much over last years 7th pick.
Yea I think I read somewhere that they had like a 20% increase or something ridiculous
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Yea its really messing everything else up. Granted, the Bengals still have a responsibility to get Andre signed but this definitely does not help them.
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Just looked it up

Sedrick Ellis signed a 5-year 49M with 19.5M Guaranteed

DHB signed a 5-year 54M with 23.5M Guaranteed


So the Raiders guaranteed money is a 20.5% increase of Sedrick Ellis' deal.. where as the whole contract is only a 10% increase
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Went to camp Tuesday, and I must say I am highly impressed with Clinton McDonald. First off the dude is built like a tank. He seemed to have a very high motor and could even make the team and be a serious player eventually. Maualuga seemed like a class act through and through.

I didn't see much on offense. Caldwell looked really good from what I saw. Roy Williams looked pretty good.

And on another side note, Mike Zimmer was hilarious with the HBO cameras on him, the entire time he kept bringing up the cameras so they couldnt use much of his footage.

I should be back down monday and I am hoping to watch more of the offense
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Smith's Agent has said he sent a new offer the Bengals way. Hopefully it'll get the ball rolling in getting a deal done. I just want it to get done so it's one less thing to worry about.

Brandon Johnson and Utecht are out. Maualuga is questionable.

We talked about the returning situation, with Chatman out here's what Marvin had to say"

"We will probably have three or four guys get an opportunity to get into the game. We’ll have the chance for DeDe Dorsey, Tom Nelson, Quan Cosby and Bernard (Scott) to have an opportunity to return punts and kicks."
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Hard Knocks was very cool to see did anyone else get to watch? Is it bad that I basically bought HBO for this very reason?
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they dont show on HBO Canada and I'm pissed about that
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No it just means you were lucky enough to actually buy HBO unlike me haha
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Hard Knocks was awesome. It was really well done and I thought parts of it were hilarious (i.e., "Randy Jackson, American Idol."). I can't wait Friday's game and next week's episode.
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Watched it last night and really enjoyed it, my daughter even liked it (and she hates football).

They spent more time with the offense than defense. Our TE story got good coverage, you can see that Reggie's injury was felt by everyone on the team and you can get the sense on how special of a person he his in the segment. Chad Coffman was picked on by the coaches, he is struggling on just about everything and has a steep learning curve to cover, even though the Coaches did say (I think it was Brat) that he is improving with every day of camp. Suspect they will stay close to this story in future episodes.

Chad was hilarous. He really seemed to be popular in the locker room and engaged with team mates both on and off the field - which was good to see. More important he seems to ready for a big year, this venue is perfect for him. Palmer seems poised and ready to get it on, I think he will get more TV footage as camp goes on.

The Coaches and Mike Brown did not hide from last years terrible season. Lewis showed leadership, hope Zimmer and Brat will get more coverage later. Mike Brown was more involved than I would of thought - the good is when he showed his feelings when Utacht went down - the very bad is when he (not Marvin) was leading a meeting talking about staffing at the TE position. The body language from the coaches was very uncomfortable for me to see.

Briefly covered the Andre Smith holdout. Expect they will continue to follow this.

Also covered some lesser known free agents and saw the first cut of the team.
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I did the same thing for Hard Knocks last year. I ended up keeping HBO, though.

The show was good last night. J.D. Runnels getting the ax at 5:30 a.m. was pretty cold. haha.

I've always liked Reggie Kelly so, it was pretty tough seeing him go down on the show. :( We all knew about it already but, makes you feel for him a lot more when get to see it behind the scenes and such.

I did really like seeing the little games/contests and relays they had the beginning. Good stuff.

Oh, and I said it in the other thread but, following Coffman is a mistake. Guy is soooo boring.
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According to Jay Glazer the Bengals were the first team to offer Vick. 2 years 2.3 million. That would've been some nice PR... Not...

Bratkowski wouldn't have known how to use him anyway, that I'm sure of.

Still no news on Andre Smith, ugh.
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I actually would've loved to have Vick haha... Just cuz he is soo entertaining..
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It prolly wouldn't be a good PR move, but I think its clear we don't really care all that much about that anyway. It's football, not golf. I personally wouldn't mind having him but he would probably never see the field and as PalmerToCJ said, Brat wouldn't know how to use him anyway.

Would be pretty crazy to Palmer AND Vick lined up side by side in the shotgun though. I'm surprised no team has done that yet with a more athletic type QB.
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Wow do I hate Shayne Graham... We need a new kicker and ASAP.. They always talk about his "career percentage" well that was when he was good. It seems that he has lost the power in his leg because we barely kicked FGs longer then 45 yards last year. And I swear every game winning kick he has taken in the last 3 years he shanks them.

Now he followed up with a piss poor performance in the preseason..
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I've definitely always had a problem with him not being able to kick a long one. It seems like if we are late in the game, we have to pick up 10 yards more than other teams so he can be in range. He's pretty solid at the short ones so I guess it's a trade off.

Lame for Carson to be out Thursday, he needs to get work in but I understand him sitting.

Thursday I will be solely focused on defense and the running game.
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I wanna see what Rey can do out there and how he impacts the defense


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It prolly wouldn't be a good PR move, but I think its clear we don't really care all that much about that anyway. It's football, not golf. I personally wouldn't mind having him but he would probably never see the field and as PalmerToCJ said, Brat wouldn't know how to use him anyway.

Would be pretty crazy to Palmer AND Vick lined up side by side in the shotgun though. I'm surprised no team has done that yet with a more athletic type QB.
Ravens did it with Flacco / Troy Smith (though only a few times). Meanwhile, Ronnie Brown and LT are like mini-QB's when you line them up in the shotgun, and Miami did that a lot last year, and LT's been doing it his whole career.
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It's getting to the point where I almost forget we still haven't signed Andre Smith because of the lack of news. Ugh. Really, don't see a near end in sight.
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Wouldn't be surprised if they continue to cover this holdout on hard knocks. If so, this won't shed a good light on our FO or Andre on how we handle negotiations. Its too bad it usually comes to this with our 1st round picks, hopefully they will come to their senses and get him into camp. Or maybe getting embarrassed by HBO will help gets this thing closed?
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Wouldn't be surprised if they continue to cover this holdout on hard knocks. If so, this won't shed a good light on our FO or Andre on how we handle negotiations. Its too bad it usually comes to this with our 1st round picks, hopefully they will come to their senses and get him into camp. Or maybe getting embarrassed by HBO will help gets this thing closed?
I just wish Andre would sign, if he plays good enough he will get a huge pay day for his 2nd contract
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Originally Posted by PalmerToCJ View Post
Apparently Brown is trying to offer Smith LESS money than DHB. Ugh, it's always hard for me to side with the Bengals when it comes to our holdouts.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...gals+far+apart
did you see the part in Hard Knocks where the ***** was talking about offering Smith "so much money, and they think it isn't enough"

i wanted to choke a *****
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