Houston Texans Discussion - Page 57

Texas Homer · 10-17-2010, 03:24 PM

Nice Win!!!...I'll take it.

jayceheathman · 10-17-2010, 03:26 PM

DeMeco Ryans is out for the season with a torn Achilles tendon. Who thought our defense couldn't get any worse?

cunningham06 · 10-17-2010, 04:29 PM

Well we're certainly not a boring team to watch... The Demeco news is terrible, we can't afford to get worse defensively. Hopefully someone steps up, I'm a fan of Darryl Sharpton and would like to see him get some more playing time.

jjmt2500 · 10-17-2010, 07:29 PM

Watching this game wore me out.

It was nice to win, any win is good, but our D blows!!! Once again no pass rush. While watching this game I was thinking why not try Molden? He cant be that much worse that Jackson or McCain.

Texas Homer · 10-17-2010, 08:20 PM

CB, MLB and DT....Help at all 3 spots would be cool.

jjmt2500 · 10-19-2010, 07:47 PM

I'm pretty upset that the Texans didnt do anything before the trade deadline.

datchapin · 10-19-2010, 08:02 PM

I'm pretty upset they didn't really do anything to address the secondary during Kubiaks time here period. We've never drafted safety in the first 4 rds. We were lucky as hell to land Pollard. This off-season we let go not one, but two of our veteran CBs. I'm not saying Reeves was the best, but he was better than Dunta last yr. and allowed us the freedom to move on without him. The frustration is just overwhelming at times.

Kareem Jackson, wow. When we drafted this guy we were sold on him being the most NFL ready. Well after watching this guy for 6 games I find it hard to believe their arguments. First of all he was praised for being able to play bump n run. So far the majority of his snaps come with him lined up 5 yds. off the receiver. Isn't that counterproductive? Secondly didn't we learn from the Bennett experience. Just cuz a rookie CB has a decent season it's not guaranteed he'll improve. I'm looking at you Quinn and McCain.

I can't even be mad at the front four when they get absolutely no help from the secondary. NONE!!! I'm glad we got the win, but the performance....

On top of that we lost D. Ryans!! Woe is us. I take that back, our problems can be improved on, I just don't have faith that our coaching staff is up to it.

jjmt2500 · 10-20-2010, 01:56 PM

The Texans tried out 9 guys today. All on offense. WTF???

Texas Homer · 10-20-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jjmt2500

I'm pretty upset that the Texans didnt do anything before the trade deadline.

I was too. I don't get it.

jjmt2500 · 10-25-2010, 04:00 PM

Now that Peyton has a few weeks of game film to watch on our secondary, he is gonna put up huge numbers(glad he is on my fantasy team haha).

The one upside we have against the Colts is that we can run the ball much better than they can. We are gonna have to put up a lot of points to beat them, cause our DBs wont stop Peyton. I think we can out score them, cause I believe our offense is better than theres right now.

I say we win 41-35.

datchapin · 10-25-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jjmt2500

Now that Peyton has a few weeks of game film to watch on our secondary, he is gonna put up huge numbers(glad he is on my fantasy team haha).

The one upside we have against the Colts is that we can run the ball much better than they can. We are gonna have to put up a lot of points to beat them, cause our DBs wont stop Peyton. I think we can out score them, cause I believe our offense is better than theres right now.

I say we win 41-35.

You have Peyton on your fantasy team!!?? WTF man, I'm in shock!

datchapin · 10-25-2010, 08:11 PM

Our solution to Demecos absence is to replace him with Cushing. I don't really think that makes us better. I would have liked to have brought someone else in. Danny Clark was playing for the Saints last night, when did they sign him? Bastards. Seems we signed a couple of former 1st rounders to fill out our squad, can't really see them making an impact.

HEISMANHERSCHEL · 10-26-2010, 12:03 AM

I have to agree with datchapin. I was upset we didnt make a move for a cb.

And Kareem Jackson does not look like a pro cb. I am sick of the cb play.

One question. At the beginning of the year our pass rush was great. Does anyone have an idea what happened to it? I can't figure this out, and dont even have a theory of why it has gotten worse.

jjmt2500 · 10-26-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by datchapin

You have Peyton on your fantasy team!!?? WTF man, I'm in shock!

I have learned that in fantasy you have to play with your brain and not your heart. I almost sat Peyton for game 1 cause i didnt want him to get points off of us, lucky for me we got that win and Peyton got a crap load of points. I figure the same will happen again this week.

jjmt2500 · 10-26-2010, 12:40 AM

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I have to agree with datchapin. I was upset we didnt make a move for a cb.

And Kareem Jackson does not look like a pro cb. I am sick of the cb play.

One question. At the beginning of the year our pass rush was great. Does anyone have an idea what happened to it? I can't figure this out, and dont even have a theory of why it has gotten worse.

I really believe that Mario and Smith take plays off or just dont get motivated to play all out on every play. There is no reason why Mario can get 3 sacks in one game and then go 3 weeks without one.

Im excited to see what Cush can do being the leader of the D.

datchapin · 10-27-2010, 07:20 PM

I think other teams have realized how horrendous our secondary is. I mean every time we get near the QB they find an open receiver. I can't even remember the last time a commentator said. "That sack was caused by good coverage on the Texans side." Just isn't happening.

jjmt2500 · 10-28-2010, 12:32 AM

I never thought i would say this but.... I miss Reeves.

America · 10-28-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by datchapin

I think other teams have realized how horrendous our secondary is. I mean every time we get near the QB they find an open receiver. I can't even remember the last time a commentator said. "That sack was caused by good coverage on the Texans side." Just isn't happening.

What did you expect. We have no experience at corner. Glover Quinn was a nice surprise as a rookie, but he's not a starter. Kareem Jackson is lost out there and McCain was a 7th rounder for a reason.

datchapin · 10-30-2010, 12:27 PM

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What did you expect. We have no experience at corner. Glover Quinn was a nice surprise as a rookie, but he's not a starter. Kareem Jackson is lost out there and McCain was a 7th rounder for a reason.

It's not unexpected. BTW long time no see. It's just embarrasing that we all saw this coming throughout the off-season and now it's kinda like whats happening type attitude. Letting go of Reeves was a mistake, he may not have been a shutdown corner, but he was solid. I remember saying not to get too high on Quinn pointing out the Bennett fiasco. Then not pursuing Leigh Bodden hard enough, not bringing in safety help. I mean we were setting up for failure.

On another or maybe related note. Antonio Smith called a defensive players meeting. I like that he's showing leadership, considering he's showing up this season and it's not a contract yr. I gotta say I'm liking him even more. However I wonder what they can do. I look at our games and how our CBs get lined up and I gotta say the cushion they allow is embarrasing. I wonder what the guys are gonna try. Monday night can't get here fast enough.

America · 10-30-2010, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by datchapin

It's not unexpected. BTW long time no see. It's just embarrasing that we all saw this coming throughout the off-season and now it's kinda like whats happening type attitude. Letting go of Reeves was a mistake, he may not have been a shutdown corner, but he was solid. I remember saying not to get too high on Quinn pointing out the Bennett fiasco. Then not pursuing Leigh Bodden hard enough, not bringing in safety help. I mean we were setting up for failure.

On another or maybe related note. Antonio Smith called a defensive players meeting. I like that he's showing leadership, considering he's showing up this season and it's not a contract yr. I gotta say I'm liking him even more. However I wonder what they can do. I look at our games and how our CBs get lined up and I gotta say the cushion they allow is embarrasing. I wonder what the guys are gonna try. Monday night can't get here fast enough.

I guess they're just making sure we don't get beat deep. I don't think Quinn or McCain can play bump and run, but Kareem Jackson played well in Saban's and Kirby Smart's system when they lined him up close to the LOS. He's a press corner and we're not taking advantage of his strengths. Although I hate seeing players get hurt (except Tom Brady), Clark and Collie's injuries couldn't have come at better times. Peyton is gonna light us up again regardless but at least it won't be as easy.

jjmt2500 · 11-02-2010, 02:34 AM

So the defense finally plays a pretty good game, not great but good against the colts, and the offense was pretty bad. Well the offense wasnt that bad other than the offensive line, which was awful. I kept yelling at the TV to put Butler in cause Brown was getting his ass handed to him by Freeny, not sure if Butler would of done better but atleast it would of been trying something different other than keeping the Texan philosophy of even if something doesnt work we will keep trying it and hope it starts working. I didnt like how we kept going away from the run, the run was the only thing working.

I really believe the reason we are so inconsistant is because Kubs is so inconsistant. Some weeks he calls a great game and others he just does a awful job. This was a game that could of been won. If we would of stuck to the run and figured out a way to block Freeny we would of won that game.

Texas Homer · 11-02-2010, 11:47 AM

I didn't think the defense played well.

I think that they played well at times, but not well in general.

What is the deal with the Offensive Line in pass protection?...WOW!!!

datchapin · 11-02-2010, 02:56 PM

The coaching failed on every level. The horrible thing is that all this stuff is recurring issues that a competent coaching staff should have taken care of. I've questioned alot of stuff, but this is the first time that I can say every coach out there failed.

Bill Kollar the D-line coach. He refuses to use bigger DT's never has he had a DT that he coached up. Stroud was the closest thing, but he was established in Jacksonville. None of our D-line uses an aray of moves. Last night they showed they were undisplined getting called for encroachment and letting Manning bait them. Huge lack of discipline and technique. The horrible thing is the D-line is the better unit on the defense.

Holland the LB coach. If he hadn't been blessed with D. Ryans and Cushing, this guy would be out of a job. Diles and Adibi haven't really improved since coming here, matter of fact Adibi is still a liability out there on the field. Last night showed me the Holland doesn't know what the hell he is doing. After we lost Ryans he weakens another position by moving Cushing to the middle. What should have happened was that Bentley should have moved to the middle. He covered for Ryans before and while there was a drop-off it was not that noticeable. Last night it wasn't even Cushing calling the defense it was Diles and everytime that Manning audibled we didn't change our defensive call. Another thing is while Bentley is not the most athletic guy he is a veteran and knows our D better than Diles or Cushing and would have likely made some adjustments. Unfortunately since he got moved to the SAM and we were in nickel most of the night he didn't even really see the field. He's also one of our better tacklers technique-wise which after last night was evident we didn't really have.

Gibbs our secondary coach. Incompetent. One of the reasons our guys line up so far away is that Gibbs implimented this new technique (whatever) that guys would start with their hips open and this would help them react better to the ball. Well, that expirement has failed since he's been here and this yr. since we have no veterans it has become a glaring weakness that our rooks and second yr. Players can't overcome. JUST FRICKING STICK TO WHAT WORKS!! Bump n Run coverage. It does two things it disrupts the timing of routes and the routes themselves. I can't remember what game it was, but Jackson bumped someone hard enough that they went out of bounds sure they made the catch, but Jackson altered the route enough that the catch was negated. Our secondary looks so inept out there it's embarrasing. I mean really, it just sucked.

Bush, where the hell is your aggressiveness. Our defense was so bland last night. Before the game Steve Young put us on blast saying he would love to play against our vanilla D all day long. They always end up talking about how the D is gonna step up. Last yr. our first few games were the worst against the run in NFL history. This yr. we're last or next to last in total D. I would think Bush would try something anything different to try and change that.

I wanna keep going, because offense is almost just as bad, but I gotta head out. Dammit, I can't believe I sat through the whole game last night. Maybe I'm becoming a masochist.

jjmt2500 · 11-02-2010, 03:41 PM

The worst part about all of this is that nothing will change.

jjmt2500 · 11-03-2010, 10:27 PM

The Bills, Bucs, and Fins were the teams that put in a bid for Merriman. We wouldnt of gotten him because the Bills are first on the wavier list, but atleast try. We could really use another LB and I would of been very happy with Merriman.