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Old 02-24-2008, 03:04 PM    (permalink
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I said bust worthy as of now. For a guy who was so hyped up, and taken number 2 overall, he has not produced.

Of course he can get better. I would like him to get better.
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Is it his fault he was so hyped? Not a chance. I wouldn't call Mario Williams, AJ Hawk, ect busts even though they haven't done great yet. You can't call a 2 year pro a bust, it's just dumb.
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What do you mean havent done great yet? Hawk has had 2 100+ tackle seasons, and Mario Williams just recorded a 14.5 sack season and seems to be only getting better.

Reggie Bush has 312 carries in his NFL career for 1146 yards with a 3.7 average. Jerious Norwood who was in the same class and a 3rd round pick has 202 carries for 1246 yards for a 6.2 average.

His receiving ability is good but has so many plays designed for him and has Brees as his QB so he is still going to get alot of looks. Even with that, his average YPC is 7.2 (Jerious Norwood has a 9.5 average).

Bush also has 10 fumbles and 5 lost in his career. Not so hot.

And he was leading the league in dropped passes before he got injured this season.

I would say he is a bust as of right now. Things could change and he could as of right now, remove his bust tag. And ****, I want him to do better because I LIKE him.
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You will never win a bust argument on a 2 year player. You need 3 years, simple as that. Is Calvin Johnson a bust? Is Jamarcus Russell a bust? They were both hyped just as much if not more than Reggie and see what happened with them. You can't judge stats in this system, its a 2 back system where Deuce got the majority of the touches. Not to mention he was injured for the majority of last year.
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I think you're forgetting how much hype Bush got, dude. Russell had nowhere near that.

But I don't agree that we should call him a bust yet. Hes still got some learning and growing to do as a player. Give him a few more years..if he still averages 3.7 yards a carry, then I'll agree.
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How long was Russell a virtual #1 lock leading up to the draft? Quite a while. They hyped up his size, arm strength, ect so much it was ridiculous. Which is why I absolutely hate the media.
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Yea I think it will be great for him..
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Calling Bush a bust just after two years is just as bad as calling Mario Williams a bust after his rookie season. Overhyped? Yes. A bust? Can't judge that yet.
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I am just putting a temporary bust tag on him. It can be easily removed.

I guess thats the same thing as saying the jury isnt out on him.

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I just do not think he was ready for the full role last year. When Duce went down they asked him to do alot. He had a lot of pressure and he is just not built for that full time role yet.. The kid has so much talant its just a matter of time till he breaks out..Not that he has been doing nothing. But he will have a great pro bowl type year in the next 1-3 years..
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I agree he was no tready for it.; Duece went down and buch was put in a role he did prepare for..
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There is talk the Chiefs could make a strong push for Jeff Faine if he hits the FA market can I get some info on him don't know much about him?

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For starters it looks like he has priced himself out of New Orleans. Rumors has it that he is looking to become the highest payed center in the NFL. We re-signed backup C Jonathan Goodwin yesterday, so it's more than likely that Faine will hit the open market.
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From what I understand we are in a fight with TB on who gets to talk with him first this weekend.
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No luck for you guys. He didn't even make it out of Tampa, and is now the highest payed center in the league.
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I am so glad we did not pay that money for him....He is ok. he is on his way down career waise.. Not worth that money.. Good for him.
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How is he on his way down? He is 26
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Hes not that good. I mean, hes solid, but the highest paid center? No way.
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I hated him in Cleveland considering he was a RD1 pick. Great if not one of the best in pass protection, but gets dominated in the run game. That style just could not fit in our division with Pitt and the Ravens.
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Just becouse he is young does not mean he is not on his way down. Thats why the browns traded him. He played good for us but his run blocking is crap and if im paying that much money I want a well balanced player...The Bucs love the run that is a big part of there game. So why pay that much money for a pass protect center?..He will play well for them but not as well as the money he is getting payed.....Great for him..
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Just becouse he is young does not mean he is not on his way down. Thats why the browns traded him. He played good for us but his run blocking is crap and if im paying that much money I want a well balanced player...The Bucs love the run that is a big part of there game. So why pay that much money for a pass protect center?..He will play well for them but not as well as the money he is getting payed.....Great for him..
I have to agree I dont now how he will help in a run based Offence?
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If they used Reggie correctly he would be a star I don't think he is a bust though
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He was injured all year. He tore up the practice squad, though. And right now it looks like he's going to be the #2 next to Colston. I think his main competition will be David Patten.
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