New Orleans Saints Discussion - Page 69

diabsoule · 12-11-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CJSchneider

OK, I still see us trying to trade down though.
1,4,4,7 + compensatory picks. Not optimal when you look at the number of key injuries we had this year.

Which big name player did we lose this year through FA that would net us a compensatory pick?

Gay Ork Wang · 12-11-2008, 06:01 PM

Doug Marone is expected to take the Syracuse HC job

SaintsMan · 12-11-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

Which big name player did we lose this year through FA that would net us a compensatory pick?

Jeff Faine and nobody else worth mentioning

diabsoule · 12-11-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsMan

Jeff Faine and nobody else worth mentioning

I'm wondering what we would get for him since we didn't really sign a significant FA last year except Bobby McCray.

Didn't Jeff Faine sign the biggest contract ever for a center?

Geo · 12-11-2008, 07:04 PM

Bobby McCray and Randall *** could potentially counter the loss of Faine.

SugarSean · 12-11-2008, 09:38 PM

This post was never meant to be a homer post but I really hope u guys are watching Thomas. He is legit. Today Brees is havin the worst game of his career and Pierre is carrying the team on his back. What can anybody say now? Everybody is co-signing the guy. Just admit you were wrong gaywangork. Be a man. Just admit you were wrong.

bearsfan_51 · 12-11-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SugarSean

This post was never meant to be a homer post but I really hope u guys are watching Thomas. He is legit. Today Brees is havin the worst game of his career and Pierre is carrying the team on his back. What can anybody say now? Everybody is co-signing the guy. Just admit you were wrong gaywangork. Be a man. Just admit you were wrong.

I actually like Thomas, but he had one nice run. That's it. "Carrying them on his back?" Really? First of all, they are losing. Second of all, outside of one run that had spectacular blocking, he has 14 carries for 42 yards. Woot.

SaintsMan · 12-11-2008, 10:54 PM

I would like to see what Thomas could do, on team with a decent run blocking O-Line.

SaintsMan · 12-11-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

I'm wondering what we would get for him since we didn't really sign a significant FA last year except Bobby McCray.

Didn't Jeff Faine sign the biggest contract ever for a center?

Yeah, Faine is the highest paid Center

SugarSean · 12-11-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

I actually like Thomas, but he had one nice run. That's it. "Carrying them on his back?" Really? First of all, they are losing. Second of all, outside of one run that had spectacular blocking, he has 14 carries for 42 yards. Woot.

I"m talkin bout FOOTBALL plays. Please tell me ur listening to Mark Schlereth right now. Pierre diving for the first down (got a horrible spot) was a great football play. The dude is a player. His touchdown run was not great blocking, it was GOOD blocking an a very good cut by pierre. He fights for extra yardage, like Marion Barber and he is a huge threat out the backfield like Brian Westbrook (although he doesn't have the top of Westbrook). He didn't have his best game but he still had 140+ total yards and 2 touchdowns against a more than capable defense. Give the dude his respect.

captainjack27 · 12-11-2008, 11:07 PM

The more I see him, the more impressed I am with him. Granted it's only been a couple games, but he's certainly been impressive.

bearsfan_51 · 12-11-2008, 11:09 PM

The thing is, I already said I like Thomas, but when you compare him to a combination of Marion Barber and Brian Westbrook you just look really,really, really stupid. He's a nice, well-rounded, runningback. He's not an elite player by any means though.

captainjack27 · 12-11-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SugarSean

I"m talkin bout FOOTBALL plays. Please tell me ur listening to Mark Schlereth right now. Pierre diving for the first down (got a horrible spot) was a great football play. The dude is a player. His touchdown run was not great blocking, it was GOOD blocking an a very good cut by pierre. He fights for extra yardage, like Marion Barber and he is a huge threat out the backfield like Brian Westbrook (although he doesn't have the top of Westbrook). He didn't have his best game but he still had 140+ total yards and 2 touchdowns against a more than capable defense. Give the dude his respect.

Brian Westbrook and Marion Barber???? uhhh not so fast there. He's a good spark, but he's no where near their level.

PACKmanN · 12-11-2008, 11:23 PM

I think of Ryan Grant when I see him.

bearsfan_51 · 12-11-2008, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PACKmanN

I think of Ryan Grant when I see him.

Ryan Grant runs with more power, and Thomas is probably a better pass-catcher.

Well....2007 Ryan Grant. I haven't seen as much burst from him this year.

Honestly I think Pierre Thomas is a slightly softer version of Matt Forte. He's a good back to have on your team, and a serviceable #1.

diabsoule · 12-11-2008, 11:57 PM

PT plays with a lot of heart, has a decent burst, has soft hands, can power his way forward at times, and does and admirable job at blocking but he can't be relied upon continually to grind out the tough yards. He's basically a jack of all trades/master of none type of player. He's a serviceable #1 as bf_51 pointed out but he's needs those complimentary backs that will make him look better. Reggie Bush can be that type of back but we need a bruiser to bring in on those tough 3rd and 1 situations.

I've liked PT for a while and wanted him to be the featured back last year and have been louder in my advocacy for that this year. He won't ever be an All-Pro and probably won't ever make a Pro-Bowl but he's the type of player that every team needs and gives 110% every time he's on the field.

CashmoneyDrew · 12-12-2008, 12:48 AM

Why the hell did this bastard choose tonight to go off? He couldn't wait until next week when I'm not playing him in the semi-finals of my fantasy league? ****.

diabsoule · 12-13-2008, 12:11 AM

With Doug Marrone leaving for the Syracuse job, I'd like for Stan Brock to take over as our OC. I know he won't call any plays since that is what Sean Payton does but Brock could be our new OL coach.

Here's Brock's background:

Offensive Tackle - 1980-1992 - New Orleans Saints
Offensive Tackle - 1993-1995 - San Diego Chargers
Head Coach - Portland Forest Dragons (AFL) - 1997-1999
Head Coach - Los Angeles Avengers (AFL) - 2000-2001
Offensive Line Coach - USMA Black Knights - 2002-2005
Head Coach - USMA Black Knights - 2005-2008

I think he'd be a very good replacement for Marrone.

Also, do you guys think we should replace our Special Teams Coordinator? Our ST has been terrible this year.

Crickett · 12-13-2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

I wonder what the trade value for John Stinchcomb would be? Anybody?

Two bags of Blazin Buffalo and ranch doritos. The large bags, not the 99 cent ones.

diabsoule · 12-13-2008, 02:32 AM

A bit off topic a bit but there is a player I've had my eye on since the 2006 draft that I would love to see in the black and gold is Jon Alston.

I remember when the '06 draft rolled around I was looking at the linebacker from Stanford as a strong safety. He has prototypical height and weight (6'1, 220) and possesses outstanding speed for a man his size (4.45-4.50). After reading several interviews he has struck as a man of intelligence and dedication. In the correct scheme I think he could be a terror in the SS spot, someone like Troy Polamalu. A person you could scheme around and make the focal point of your defense. A headhunter if you will.

If he could be paired with a speedy, centerfield type FS I think he could do wonders. I'm sure I'm wishing in one hand here but I'd love to see what he could do. He just reminds me of a faster version of Sammy Knight.

http://web.archive.org/web/200604230...jonalston.html

diabsoule · 12-13-2008, 10:28 PM

What do you guys think of the idea of us trading one our starting DE's in the offseason?

wicket · 12-14-2008, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

What do you guys think of the idea of us trading one our starting DE's in the offseason?

Obviously it depends on what we can get but if i had to chose charles grant due to age and stuff, but im not really up to it unless we can get something great and i dont see any of them warranting a first rounder.

SaintsFanForLife · 12-15-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

What do you guys think of the idea of us trading one our starting DE's in the offseason?

Grant would be the one I would trade off. I still think we need to get off our butts and spend some cash on a SS or FS. We have no speed nor do we have any heavy hitters. There is nothing to worry about when game planing against our S's.

SaintsFanForLife · 12-15-2008, 02:19 PM

So what do you guys think of Vilma. To sign or not to sign?

I really like Vilma and think he has been a big part of our D. It would be stupid not to sign Vilma. I dont care what we lose he is young and is a great player and leader that will only get better.

diabsoule · 12-15-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsFanForLife

So what do you guys think of Vilma. To sign or not to sign?

I really like Vilma and think he has been a big part of our D. It would be stupid not to sign Vilma. I dont care what we lose he is young and is a great player and leader that will only get better.

I have a feeling that we have a deal already in place for him and the only reason we're letting him hit FA is just so we don't have to give up the draft picks.

I am confident that we will re-sign him.