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Old 01-04-2010, 10:07 AM    (permalink
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I'm surprised the Eagles came out so flat yesterday. It looked like they didn't want to show to much, which is odd bc they had a chance to be the #2 seed with a win.

I also think injuries are finally starting to catch up with the Eagles. You can only go so far with backups and 3rd stringers.

That, and Andy Reid had one of those Andy Reid days. You guys know what im talking about.

He usually saves those days for the NFC Championship game.

That said, I expect the Eagles to win this saturday.
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I don't know if this makes me want to laugh or facepalm-

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Anyone who is looking over the Eagles on Sunday (next) is foolish just because the Eagles lost this week means nothing. Both teams have another week to look at film and don't have to go anywhere. A week is a long time to make adjustments.
That may be the only good thing to come out of yesterday's performance. Since we played so bad and our game planning was so bad I expect we'll see a drastic change in the way we approach the game next week. On the other hand I doubt the Cowboys change much after such a great showing and we'll have a week to look over the tape and plan around that.
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If, if, if, if, if means nothing. We got smoked. End o' story. Whether you believe it was vanilla playcalling, bad execution, great execution from Dallas, whatever, we got spanked. I'm thrilled that I didn't see this shitshow. Are the Cowboys 24 points better than us? No. However, give them credit. They came up big. We'll see them next week.
I was more just pointing out our missed opportunities, rather than making excuses. This is the playoffs now. Every opportunity we get, we must capitalize.
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Hey Dallas fans, I know you love to come over here and quote me so here is a good one, you ready? "**** you, pieces of ****"

Your Cowboys aren't better than the Eagles and yesterdays game showef nobody anything that says the Cowboys are going to beat the Eagles on Saturday. Maybe if you stop letting your pride get in the way you could see that, or maybe if you took off those blue and silver 3-D glasses Jerry gave you. The Eagles shot themselves in the foot the Cowboys simply watched it happen and like I've said many times, if the Eagles connect on those missed oppurtunities the Eagles win that and guess what? The Cowboys had absolutely no hand in those, the Eagles missed those all on their own, the Cowboys did nothing to defend them, in fact the Cowboys are the ones who let them get in positions like that where DeSean beat them deep and Maclin gained huge seperation and McNabb drove the Eagles to the redzone.

And did I mention you could all go **** yourselves? Why don't you go suck Miles "Horse face" Austin's shaft some more? Or better yet why don't you go slobber over Mike Jenkins and talk about how he is the next Deion? Bunch of morons.
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Ok. Fair.

What about the Ogletree overthrow?
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Ok. Fair.

What about the Ogletree overthrow?
What about it?
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That's not the boys shooting themselves in the foot? Ala the mcnabb to desean overthrow? Which you said wouldve changed the course of the game.

You see... You're attributing the eagles loss as just a bunch of misteps and bad plays by the eagles. Boys had nothing to do with that is basically what you're saying, and my point is that there was misteps and blown chances by both teams....so...in short, to take a play out of your book. The cowboys stopped themselves, take those holding calls on the big Felix runs, ogletree overthrow, Roy miscommunication, and you have numerous plays that Romo and co. "choked" on. Too many mistakes that weren't caused by good eagles D, just bad boys play. They shouldve won by more in your reasoning.
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Ok. Fair.

What about the Ogletree overthrow?
No No No dont you understand? We did everything right and they played the worst game they possibly could. We had NOTHING to do with them averaging 8ppg against us. We've beat them in Philly and Dallas but they were both flukes. They are clearly the better team and I feel confident they will score this week. Please dont bring up our mistakes, such as the overthrow or our red zone turnover because those were great plays made by the Eagles.
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Guys... don't worry. That game didn't even matter if/when you win the next one.

That was actually the best scenario in which a team loses. In less than a week, you go right back and have a chance to win the game that's a million times more important.
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Did anyone notice that on Sunday Bunkley didn't play well at all? I mean they ran all over him and Mike Patterson which doesn't surprise me because the Cowboys interior line outweighs them by about 50 pounds each. But still for guys that are touted as the second best DT pair in football they were shoved around a lot.

Antonio Dixon actually played very well and when he came in I always noticed him getting close to the action and he was doing a very good job as a run stuffer. This guy was a steal, the Redskins cut him and I can't thank them enough because he has played so well that Trevor Laws is now regularly a healthy scratch and at 6'3" and 327 pounds Dixon provides much needed size in the middle.

Right now if I had to go back and choose who played well it would be a very limited list, it would be Jeremiah Trotter, Antonio Dixon, Tracy White, Brent Celek (who hurt his thumb again) and Todd Herramens other than that no one really came ready to play.
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The Cowboys line just overpowers everyone. The eagles defense doesn't have as big guys to compete with them, trying to get by on speed.

Trotter and Dixon are the two, who was the guard that Trotter bull rushed and knocked him on his ass?
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IDK but Trot played a hell of a game and he was really the only one I can say that for, it was like watching Trotter in his prime and its too bad no one else decided to show up.
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Does anyone remember that play where Romo got Crayton the ball really quickly and he just ran upfield but Tracy White caught him? If you look at that play again, Tracy White probably saved Crayton from a big time injury because Macho Harris lined up, dug deep, dropped the helmet and shoulder and was ready to pop him big time but at the last second Tracy White tackled him out of Macho's path.

And the Eagles really should go with a bigger line-up, put Gocong in instead of Fokou on run downs, have Trotter play more, bring in Sean Jones at FS have Dixon play NT and Bunkley play UT. The defense needs to be reshuffled to mix things up because Mike Patterson cannot take Leonard Davis all game and the smaller quicker guys were just blown up in the run game, Akeem Jordan and Macho Harris in particular.
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That's not the boys shooting themselves in the foot? Ala the mcnabb to desean overthrow? Which you said wouldve changed the course of the game.

You see... You're attributing the eagles loss as just a bunch of misteps and bad plays by the eagles. Boys had nothing to do with that is basically what you're saying, and my point is that there was misteps and blown chances by both teams....so...in short, to take a play out of your book. The cowboys stopped themselves, take those holding calls on the big Felix runs, ogletree overthrow, Roy miscommunication, and you have numerous plays that Romo and co. "choked" on. Too many mistakes that weren't caused by good eagles D, just bad boys play. They shouldve won by more in your reasoning.
I think it is fair to say that the Eagles had many more missteps than the Cowboys did, McNabb in particular refused to get rid of the ball, he had confidence issues which I think may have stemmed from losing long time C Jamaal Jackson, he didn't look comfortable like he used to and he looked the same way after Jackson left the Broncos game.

In short the game wouldn't have been a blowout had the Eagles connected on the plays they typically make and it wouldn't be smart to assume the Eagles would play the same way as they did on Sunday just because that Dallas game really isn't what you can expect out of the Eagles.

And why would I respond to a post that is as arrogant, disrespectful and condescending Pocketaces? I won't. (LOL, UR SARCASM IS CUTTING EDGE! )
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I'm going to go out on a limb here, but the Eagles are in trouble. If anyone didn't bring their A game, it was Dallas - I think Dallas has more cards up their sleeve. They were up all game and I can see them bringing more disruptive blitz packages, which they didn't show last weekend, this weekend. They are going to attack that center position and I envision one of those games where McNabb is getting sacked or pressured a lot - if that happens, that's pretty much all she wrote. Dallas clearly committed to shutting out Desean (you gotta give them props for that), so Maclin is going to be critical if the Eagles are going to win. I mean, he's going to have to put up some really gaudy numbers. The problem is, I didn't see him getting enough separation from the cb's on short and mid-range plays. The reason the Eagles field position stunk was because the Eagles D was not very good - Desean's not going to take it to the house every time on punt returns, but look, the Eagles D needs to step up in order to get Dallas to punt and give Desean some space to work with. I'd love to see the Eagles go the distance, but getting Dallas again is a terrible match-up for the Birds. Bottom line: I expect Dallas to win this weekend.

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[McNabb] had confidence issues which I think may have stemmed from losing long time C Jamaal Jackson, he didn't look comfortable like he used to and he looked the same way after Jackson left the Broncos game.
I think the center position is the most underrated in all of football. Losing a good starting center is to an offense like a RB getting turf toe.
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Cowboys fan here. Wanted to come over and talk football, no trash. I have a ton of respect for the Eagles.

However, there are a couple of matchups that strongly favor the Cowboys and would like to get you guys take on them.

1. It seemed that the Cowboys DBs really got physical with Maclin and Jackson. It seemed to really get them off their game evidenced by that play later in the game where Maclin went deep and he could not take his eyes off the safety coming over. They are both smallish and I'm wondering how the Eagles try to compensate for this.

2. Eagles OL - Really have problems with teh Cowboys front and this doesn't appear to be a 'scheme' thing. When Dallas went nickle, it appeared that all the matchups along the front favored Dallas - Ware, Spencer, Ratliff and even Bowen was giving them fits.

3. Philly has no answer for Witten. Philly's LBers are as weak as I have ever seen them and while Mikael is a decent safety, JOnes has played below average, IMO.

Now, to flip things around, Philly's front 4 is good and I don't think Dallas will have as easy a time running the ball again. Bunkley and Paterson are good and I suspect they show up big time this week, so Dallas' OL will need to have a very good game again.
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That said, I expect the Eagles to win this saturday.
One of the few times I'm going to have to disagree with you, and while I understand why the Eagles can win, I'm curious what makes you think that the Eagles will win.
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..... Tracy White probably saved Crayton from a big time injury because Macho Harris lined up, dug deep, dropped the helmet and shoulder and was ready to pop him big time but at the last second Tracy White tackled him out of Macho's path .....
I remember a play when a Cowboy missle flew right by DeSean on a PR and he was lucky his head was not ripped off.
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After the longhorn loss, an Eagles one would be devastating. Please Eagles, win this one for my own well-being...
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Interesting discussions going on here, probably not much going on because half of our regular posters got suspended for trash talking...
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Tell me about it, it's the day before an eagles playoff game and you'd think it's May or something. It's weird but I'm just not as excited as I usually am prior to a playoff game, probably because while I'm hopeful, I don't have a good feeling about it.
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Tell me about it, it's the day before an eagles playoff game and you'd think it's May or something. It's weird but I'm just not as excited as I usually am prior to a playoff game, probably because while I'm hopeful, I don't have a good feeling about it.
Agreed, I keep my expectations low so I won't be disappointed. I think we've got a shot to beat Dallas, but they match up well against us and we've got a lot to fix from last week.
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