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That's my mistake..guess it was Washburn's doing then? Either way I'd be happy if we changed things up with it as well.
Our DE rotation is talented enough that we should be able to pressure the QB Wide 9 or not. Outside of switching to a full on 3-4, this DE rotation is talented enough that they should generate a decent amount of pressure, regardless of scheme. They haven't been running a balls to the wall wide 9 for a while, at least, but more integration of schemes outside of the wide 9 would benefit the entire defensive side of the ball, there is no question about that. Don't abandon it completely, because its nice to have that trick in your back pocket if you ever feel you really need to dial up a pass rush, but integration of more traditional front 7 in our defense would help the run game immensely, and more looks from our front 7 makes the offense's job that much more difficult.
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Marty Mornhinweg is going to celebrate still being employed by dialing up 75 pass plays for the Falcons.
Apparently one of the things that may be also switching is Reid may be going back to calling plays, which makes that first sentence important. Reid also struggles to deal with making gameplan changes in-game, so if he is indeed taking over playcalling duties as well, that's going to be something to watch. Nice having you back, btw.


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Castillo's main problem was his inability to counter opponent's offenses during the game. It is also one of the main things Reid has struggled with since he got here. Do I think he is a scapegoat? Not necessarily, but I don't think he'd have been fired if this team was over .500 right now.
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Granted, I'm horribly biased on this matter, but am I the only one who seems to think Brandon Graham should get more snaps? He's been incredibly limited in what he's been asked to do, but he's tied for second on the team in TFL with Derek Landri and he's fourth on the team in QB hurries, despite only playing 15-20 snaps on average. Jason Babin has been pretty bad pass rushing, which is his lone trick, and his run defense and outside containment are worse than ever.

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Honestly, you'd just hear your own words in another person's voice if your looking for my opinion. Whenever he is in he is around the ball and disruptive. Babin has been playing like flaming poop and Graham is showing he is hungrier and trying to prove himself. He needs more snaps, as long as it doesn't affect Cole's snaps (and even he is under-performing so far), which it shouldn't, he needs to be seeing at least another dozen snaps per game. Take 6-8 away from Babin and most of the others from Tapp. Phillip Hunt has been doing ok in comparison, so I wouldn't want too many of the little amount of snaps he sees taken away. Tapp can play both DE spots and let him be Cole's primary backup with Hunt and Curry (let's get him on the field) rotating in there as well.
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I agree, everytime I have seen Graham get into the game I've noticed him getting pressure of getting into the backfield at will. He is finally living up to what some of us were expecting but now we don't get him on the field enough. We need to do whatever we can to produce pressure at this point because we aren't doing it right now. This is a team that lead the league in sacks last year and should regularly from year to year....
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You guys have about five, give or take, defensive ends that would start for the Falcons. Crazy depth.
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You guys have about five, give or take, defensive ends that would start for the Falcons. Crazy depth.
And yet we arent getting to the passer haha.
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It's because teams figured out how to counter the wide 9, pretty simple. The wildcat worked great the first year the Dolphins ran it because it was new and no one had quite figured out how to counter it. The next year teams caught on and it had to almost be scrapped. Same thing's happening with the wide 9. We had a lot of success with it last year and teams this year had to account for it when game planning against us. All the QB has to do is take a shorter drop and step up in the pocket and the wide 9 is completely neutralized. It's not helping our pass rush, it definitely doesn't help our rush D and it makes us prone to giving up some big runs down the middle. It's time to start reconsidering it.
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At least use it differently.Much like players with different skillsets, it'd be nice to implement different schemes based on situation. If we're up big and the lead (should) seems safe. Line up in the Wide 9 all you want and get to the QB. That's when it'll be most effective. But if the team is in a close game or losing, you have to anticipate the offense running the ball more or using a more methodical type of drive. The front 7 is talented enough that we should stop most rushing attacks, at least, with just the front 7, as long as they are put in positions with a chance to succeed. Having three huge rushing lanes between our DE's with the Wide 9 makes the opponents' playcalling easy in those types of situations. Now that we have talent in our LB corps, lets show them off, not leave them vulnerable. And worst comes to worst, at least with a more prototypical base 4-3 defense being used more it gives the opponents more to gameplan on.
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Not going to lie, I'm going to be a little bit disappointed when the Eagles beat the Falcons in two weeks. It's after a bye, so you know they're going to win because Reid never loses after a bye. But the faster they can know that they need a new coach, the faster they can do something about it.
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Due to getting a new job where I work 12-9 every Saturday and Sunday, I unfortunately haven't been able to follow football much this year but even I can see that Reid's time with this team should be up after this season. Who are some good candidates to be his replacement? Any Jim Harbaugh-esque guys in college football this year?
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If the team can somehow turn this around and make the playoffs and win at least one playoff game, Reid might save his job. But lets not bank on that, lol. There are definitely a few head coaching candidates that would be considered, depending on how Todd Bowles turns the defense around, he might be a candidate. Now we don't have a lot of history to go off of here, but Lurie doesn't seem to like going after college coaches, Reid was an NFL assistant, and when they went through the interview process, I don't remember hearing any college coaches that were being thrown around. If you're looking for likely possibilities, I'd look for prominent NFL coordinators. Now this is just my gut feeling here, but I'd imagine Lurie would still look for an offensive-minded head coach, but that's just my opinion.
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If the team can somehow turn this around and make the playoffs and win at least one playoff game, Reid might save his job. But lets not bank on that, lol. There are definitely a few head coaching candidates that would be considered, depending on how Todd Bowles turns the defense around, he might be a candidate. Now we don't have a lot of history to go off of here, but Lurie doesn't seem to like going after college coaches, Reid was an NFL assistant, and when they went through the interview process, I don't remember hearing any college coaches that were being thrown around. If you're looking for likely possibilities, I'd look for prominent NFL coordinators. Now this is just my gut feeling here, but I'd imagine Lurie would still look for an offensive-minded head coach, but that's just my opinion.
I'd hate to see it...really hate to see it... but I wouldn't put it past Rob Ryan being interested in coaching his father's Eagles.
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I would not want Rob Ryan anywhere near this team to be completely honest. I think he feeds off of us his brothers success and gets too much hype because he coaches the team with the "star". When I'm thinkin of big time coaching candidates right now I think of guys like:

Greg Roman: OC SF 49ers- Has coached with Harbaugh since Stanford and has shown that his offense can be physical. He runs the ball, and his teams are great with play action. His team does not have the weapons we have and his offense would only improve. The line in SF is much more physical than ours however. Would be interesting to see what he would do with the defense, having worked with Fangio and being apart of mainly 3-4 teams.

Rex Ryan HC Jets: Rex is a great defensive coach, he has his baggage due to his mouth but he seems to do that because of how much drama follows his team in New York and I feel he tries to bring the pressure to him rather than the team. The guy built that NY team up from being a very mediocre football team to 2 straight AFC title games. He is a defensive mastermind and is more of a 3-4 guy as well but I feel he would do some great things with our pass rushers. Someone is going to give him another shot as a HC.

Mike Zimmer DC Cincy- The fact that this guy isnt a head coach yet is crazy. He is a very good coach and was a hot candidate last year. He runs a 4-3 and has turned that defense in Cincy into a very solid unit. He would be in heaven with the pass rushers we have here and I feel he would bring the attitude and style they have in Cincy and the AFC North here to Philly.

John Gruden- His name will surface for all of the big time coaching gigs each off season. The guy is a great coach and has a west coast background, which our offensive playmakers are comfortable with. He understands that you need a great defense from his days in Oakland and in Tampa. He stuggled after his first year in Tampa because he couldnt find himself a QB and he would have his chance to take one in this years draft that he felt comfortable with if he so chooses.

Bill Cowher- Same as Gruden, when there is a high profile job...his name is going to come up. He was a great coach in Pitt and would bring a great mentality and the experience needed. There would be guys like Eric Mangini as well to run the defense that he helped make an elite 3-4 unit in Pitt. I believe the guy is going to get back into coaching sooner or later and Philly has deep pockets and I would imagine he may live in Penn.

David Shaw HC Stanford: Was Harbaugh's OC at San Diego and at Stanford and Stanford has not skipped a beat after he took over. He still has a very physical defense and runs a physical offense...the same one you see over in San Fran. He has learned under the coach who I feel is the best in the game right now and I would welcome him with open arms if we looked in the college game.
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I would not want Rob Ryan anywhere near this team to be completely honest. I think he feeds off of us his brothers success and gets too much hype because he coaches the team with the "star". When I'm thinkin of big time coaching candidates right now I think of guys like:

Greg Roman: OC SF 49ers- Has coached with Harbaugh since Stanford and has shown that his offense can be physical. He runs the ball, and his teams are great with play action. His team does not have the weapons we have and his offense would only improve. The line in SF is much more physical than ours however. Would be interesting to see what he would do with the defense, having worked with Fangio and being apart of mainly 3-4 teams.

Rex Ryan HC Jets: Rex is a great defensive coach, he has his baggage due to his mouth but he seems to do that because of how much drama follows his team in New York and I feel he tries to bring the pressure to him rather than the team. The guy built that NY team up from being a very mediocre football team to 2 straight AFC title games. He is a defensive mastermind and is more of a 3-4 guy as well but I feel he would do some great things with our pass rushers. Someone is going to give him another shot as a HC.

Mike Zimmer DC Cincy- The fact that this guy isnt a head coach yet is crazy. He is a very good coach and was a hot candidate last year. He runs a 4-3 and has turned that defense in Cincy into a very solid unit. He would be in heaven with the pass rushers we have here and I feel he would bring the attitude and style they have in Cincy and the AFC North here to Philly.

John Gruden- His name will surface for all of the big time coaching gigs each off season. The guy is a great coach and has a west coast background, which our offensive playmakers are comfortable with. He understands that you need a great defense from his days in Oakland and in Tampa. He stuggled after his first year in Tampa because he couldnt find himself a QB and he would have his chance to take one in this years draft that he felt comfortable with if he so chooses.

Bill Cowher- Same as Gruden, when there is a high profile job...his name is going to come up. He was a great coach in Pitt and would bring a great mentality and the experience needed. There would be guys like Eric Mangini as well to run the defense that he helped make an elite 3-4 unit in Pitt. I believe the guy is going to get back into coaching sooner or later and Philly has deep pockets and I would imagine he may live in Penn.

David Shaw HC Stanford: Was Harbaugh's OC at San Diego and at Stanford and Stanford has not skipped a beat after he took over. He still has a very physical defense and runs a physical offense...the same one you see over in San Fran. He has learned under the coach who I feel is the best in the game right now and I would welcome him with open arms if we looked in the college game.
That's actually comforting to hear because I love Rob and I don't want him to leave. Guys play hard for him and he's been able to make adjustments that work. He's been great at developing young talent and UDFAs.

One of these days Zimmer will get his chance. But you guys do know that the problem isn't the coach or the defense right? It's Vick.
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That's actually comforting to hear because I love Rob and I don't want him to leave. Guys play hard for him and he's been able to make adjustments that work. He's been great at developing young talent and UDFAs.

One of these days Zimmer will get his chance. But you guys do know that the problem isn't the coach or the defense right? It's Vick.
If the eagles miss the playoffs, Vick is as good as gone.
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If the eagles miss the playoffs, Vick is as good as gone.
I doubt that.
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Well if they miss the playoffs it likely means that Reid is gone, which will lead to Vick being gone. I personally wouldnt mind Vick being gone if Reid stayed...I think a guy like Tyler Wilson would be a GREAT fit in Marty and Andy's offense if we would somehow be able to get our hands on him.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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I doubt that.
There's a short time frame after the season where the eagles could cut Vick loose and not owe him a penny of the 15.5 million they'd owe him if they kept him around. If Vick continues to be mediocre, it would be ridiculous to pay him that kind of money. Sure, they could always re-structure, but I honestly would hope if Vick couldn't lead this football team to they playoffs, he doesn't deserve another chance.
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There's a short time frame after the season where the eagles could cut Vick loose and not owe him a penny of the 15.5 million they'd owe him if they kept him around. If Vick continues to be mediocre, it would be ridiculous to pay him that kind of money. Sure, they could always re-structure, but I honestly would hope if Vick couldn't lead this football team to they playoffs, he doesn't deserve another chance.
Oh yeah? That's a bit of news I wasn't aware of. So what exactly would the entire cap hit be going forward? I know he just signed some ridiculous $100M dollar contract but I don't know the details of it.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...tract-details/

Basically if they cut him before June 1 2013 all they would take as a salary cap hit is 4.2 million. If they keep him for one more year its only 2.8 million hit pre June 1 2014. The Eagles protected themselves in this contract and tend to do that alot . The last 2 years really the only contract of all they signed , which is Bell, Babin, Jenkins, Namdi, Young ect the only one that is really one that the Eagles have to hold is Namdi's. Most every one else they signed there is a way out for them. Eagles are if anything one of the best at using the salary cap to their advantage.
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Basically if they cut him before June 1 2013 all they would take as a salary cap hit is 4.2 million. If they keep him for one more year its only 2.8 million hit pre June 1 2014. The Eagles protected themselves in this contract and tend to do that alot . The last 2 years really the only contract of all they signed , which is Bell, Babin, Jenkins, Namdi, Young ect the only one that is really one that the Eagles have to hold is Namdi's. Most every one else they signed there is a way out for them. Eagles are if anything one of the best at using the salary cap to their advantage.
Yep. Sounds like his days are winding down.
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This phucking offensive line should be sued for lack of support.
They are pathetic.

I'm sorry for Vick, and you fans.....
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