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Old 07-18-2008, 01:17 PM    (permalink
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The best part about the deal is that Blanton is under Phillies control another 2.5 years at a reasonable salary. He is getting paid like a #5 SP, but he is likely a #3 SP. He is also an innings eater. He might have some issues in the small ballpark, but he is a horse.
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I don't know why I am having such a big problem with names, it really didn't go well to prove my point that the Phils got a decent deal. At least Cerrano is a little simlar to Cardenas in terms of how they sound and the similar ethnic names I guess, whatever, wow, I really do think I have a brain tumor.
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I have zero problem with Blanton. I don't like his numbers this year obviously, but to get something you have to give up something. We got Eaton out too which was indeed pleasureable.

However, I'm not a huge fan of giving up Cardenas. Yes, he was blocked at 2B by some guy named Utley yet he's still 2-3 years away from making the Bigs. He could've easily been held onto for another year or so before making the deal. I'm actually shocked they didn't deal Jason Donald (SS) who's looking more and more like a legit top-5 prospect. Plus he's getting REALLY close to a call-up.

Cardenas is a bit of a Freddy Sanchez in terms of his batting average (it'll probably be a consistent +.300) yet he had light power and a bit of a noodle arm. He could've been stretched into a corner OF but it would've probably been in the best interest to keep him at 2B. I just would've prefered to keep him around for a bit but oh well.

Outman was sent to the 'pen this year in hopes of putting him on the fast track to the Bigs. He's going to be a starter really soon, if not right away, for the Oakland Minor League system in my opinion. He's still adapting to a new windup but he's got end-of-the-rotation stuff. Probably could be a #3 in some instances. Good, quality lefty arm.

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BIG come from behind win last night for the Phils against the Mets. Perhaps this is the came that will pertmanently change momentum in the NL East.
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It was a significant comeback. Very good timing, but also very lucky. The Mets blew a chance to crush the Phils. Now, they might have to pay the price. Phils could easily sweep this series. Not counting on it, but definitely hopeful. At the very least, they need a series win here.

Meanwhile, Florida is only 2 back of the Phils for the division. They just aren't going away...
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Actuallyt, both the mets and the Marlins are one back. I am hoping for at least a series win, but I sweep would crush the mets IMO.
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It would hurt, but would not crush them. The Phils had a chance to crush the Mets before the All Star Break, but they failed to do so. A sweep would be a nice cushion, but Florida will still be there.
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I don't know it seems like the Mets are getting things going, but just as that gets into place, if the Phils swep them that is, that could be a huge emotional letdown, enough that it woud really hurt them.
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I agree. However, at the end of July, nothing is guaranteed. They were 8 games out in June and came all the way back. The Phillies have to beat them down and keep winning.
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I know that, I'm just saying that if the Phils took all of the games, the mets would be missing something for a while, especially with the emotional instability of the club.
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I am with you. Just saying that it might be a temporary thing. You never know how they'll respond.
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Yeah, the Phils need to win at least one of these games before we should REALLY begin to talk about it as even a POSSIBILITY.
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Hell, I'd just love to see consistent performance from the starters not named Cole Hamels or Jamie Moyer. Kendrick, Blanton, Myers or Happ (I still think we haven't seen the last of him) need to pick up the slack.
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Kendrick is a #4/5 starter. Blanton needs to be better. Ditto Myers. Happ is good, but he has limited actual potential. It is unfortunate.
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I think Happ's ceiling and floor are the same right now. He's capable of being a starter in the Bigs but he'll never be more than a #4 guy. However, if he can get outs for the time being; it'd be nice. He's more player than prospect.

But consistency of the trio is needed. While it's difficult to expect all five starters to be good, it'd just be good to have a 3rd guy step up.

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Kendrick is a #4/5 starter. Blanton needs to be better. Ditto Myers. Happ is good, but he has limited actual potential. It is unfortunate.
You can make the argument that KEndrick is our second best starting pitcher right now, but obviously, he isn't a #2, his role is as the #3 (where he is now I believe)or #4.
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I'm not talking about Kendrick's role right now. I'm talking about his long term potential and where he SHOULD be on our roster.
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Two gigantic comeback wins this weekend, despite terrible starting pitching. Glad we were able to keep pace with everything going on. They have to sweep the Nats this week.
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Those were BIG, but they almost gave it right back yesterday, the Phils need a solid sweep against the NAts, agreed. It would also be nice if the Marlins could hand the Mets a few losses.
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I'm rooting for the Marlins to take 2 of 3 from the Mets, then the Phils get a sweep. Pick up 2 on the Mets and 1 on the Marlins. Best case scenario...
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That was actually what I was hoping for too. The Braves just traded Texiera, so they are a little bit less of a threat, though Kotchman isn't exactly a bad first basemen. They lose some offense, but it doesn't make the Braves that much worse off. Tim Hudson may have Tommy John Surgery, won't have to worry about him for a while, though the Phils have been playing well against him if I remember correctly. Heard that the Phils may be looking at a releiver from the Royals, but I can't remember his name right now. Nothing serious, just looking into it right now.
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That was actually what I was hoping for too. The Braves just traded Texiera, so they are a little bit less of a threat, though Kotchman isn't exactly a bad first basemen. They lose some offense, but it doesn't make the Braves that much worse off. Tim Hudson may have Tommy John Surgery, won't have to worry about him for a while, though the Phils have been playing well against him if I remember correctly. Heard that the Phils may be looking at a releiver from the Royals, but I can't remember his name right now. Nothing serious, just looking into it right now.
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The Braves? Not sure if you were being sarcastic, but I'm not taking my eyes off of anyone in the NL East except the Nats.
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The Braves? Not sure if you were being sarcastic, but I'm not taking my eyes off of anyone in the NL East except the Nats.
No, I'm not being sarcastic. The Braves are cooked.

Chipper is on the DL, Yunel is banged up, Mccann is out with a concussion, our outfield is awful, Huddy may need Tommy John surgery. They're not a threat at all. They're pretty much a minor league team right now.
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No, I'm not being sarcastic. The Braves are cooked.

Chipper is on the DL, Yunel is banged up, Mccann is out with a concussion, our outfield is awful, Huddy may need Tommy John surgery. They're not a threat at all. They're pretty much a minor league team right now.
Questions on the McCann concussion? How long is he out? Do you think Victorino's hit was dirty? As Phils fan, I think ti was clean, but the other side of the bridge may see things differently.
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