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Old 05-11-2007, 10:55 PM    (permalink
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If you were to combine this past years WR draft class and this coming years, where would Mario Manningham sit?
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3rd rounder...im not too high on the guy, but it might just be cause i like ohio state. he might have went higher though because every time was reaching for really fast guyd.
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3rd rounder...im not too high on the guy, but it might just be cause i like ohio state. he might have went higher though because every time was reaching for really fast guyd.
Some have him ranked as a top 15 pick. By the way I am also an OSU fan. I really dislike him because I think he was a HS product from Ohio that decided to go to Michigan instead...
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3-4 rounder, well behind the elite guys like Desean Jackson.
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lol you 2 are ridiculous

he is easily a 1st rounder

id have them like this(i dont care if ginn went 8)

CJ
DeSean
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Old 05-11-2007, 11:12 PM    (permalink
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lol you 2 are ridiculous

he is easily a 1st rounder

id have them like this(i dont care if ginn went 8)

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Agreed that are pretty insane. I thought that didn't sound correct. So what are his pros and cons in your opinions?

Like a mini scouting report.
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Pros: great speed, deep threat, good body control

Cons: needs to get stronger, inexperienced at intermediate routes, injury issues


and the Michigan fans have already come up with his slogan 86=1 referring to all of the huge play receivers that have worn 1 at Michigan the he reminds them of
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Pros: great speed, deep threat, good body control

Cons: needs to get stronger, inexperienced at intermediate routes, injury issues


and the Michigan fans have already come up with his slogan 86=1 referring to all of the huge play receivers that have worn 1 at Michigan the he reminds them of
Hmm, sounds like a replacement to Joey Galloway to me. I just looked it up, his injury was quite bad, more than likely one that will reoccur. Is there any chance he stays for a senior year?
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idk, i'm not a big Michigan fan, its just by chance that i have seen him play quite a few times, but since i'm a betting man i'd say he leaves with Henne
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3rd to 4th rounder?OSU homers.
hes easily a 1st round pick and Id take both CJ and Jackson over him.
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Maybe im a little biased because I am a Michigan fan, but Manningham is easily a top 15 pick and the next Marvin Harrison
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My report for him..

Pros - Amazing ball skills (location and adjustment), very good body control, good speed, finds a way behind defenders, good concentration on deep routes, best deep-ball threat in the NCAA

Cons - Mediocre route running on short to intermediate routes, not physical and needs to bulk up, might not have the burst off the line you'd expect from such a pronounced deep-threat, only decent hands and will drop easy balls while making tougher catches, can he play the middle?, serious durability concerns with his frame/history

I see him as a late 1st/2nd guy. Reminds me a lot of Chad Johnson in that he's a great deep-threat even if his speed (or more accurately burst) isn't as advertised.

No way he would have made the first this year, too many complete receivers. Would have fallen towards the end of the 2nd.
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No he's not...yet, he didn't even catch all the short balls thrown to him this year. He is very unpolished when it comes to short and intermediate routes, but yes he does have good speed and quickness, he really needs to work on catching the 5-yard passes. He's has very far to go before he is even close to Harrison.
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If he bulks up, I think he's a legit first round prospect. I really like the guy as a prospect, but if he doesn't get more physical I'm afraid he might be overpowered at the line often by NFL corners. Not a DeSean Jackson fan, he needs to bulk up even more than Mario...If Mario gets up to 190-200 without losing much of his speed, I'd take him above every receiver in the 07 and 08 drafts except CJ. If he doesn't, I'd drop him below CJ, Meachem, Bowe, Sweed, Doucet, and Ginn.
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OH MY GOD!

Come on now Ohio State fans! i'll be the first one to give you guys credit when it is due when you guys have quality players. Manningham isnt only fast he is also a very good route runner. If you watch in the game against Ohio State, he caught six passes for eighty-six yards. You can tell Ohio State was very worried about him as a deep threat because of the Notre Dame game and a lot of other games. BY putting up eighty-six yards against Jenkins and a very young and talented ohio state defense, this proves that he can do it all.


I also think Henne is very underrated, look at all the big games Henne has played in and tell me where he has not played at least well.
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I'd like to see Manningham get open more consistently without using his double move which, while very nice, won't work nearly as often in the pros. He's a nice deep ball, but I don't see the aggressive attitude on deep balls from him, so he's going to have to be a precise route runner who gets separation rather than a big leaper who can snatch the ball out of the air.

If he can improve his route running and such, he's easily a 1st round pick.
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Thank God Bengals1690 and HuskerNation aren't NFL GM's. HuskerNation, it may be time to let your hatred for Michigan go, it's ok. Manningham needs some work on the short game, but his double move is outstanding and he can really stretch the field.

HuskerNation, if DeSean Jackson is elite with 1,060 yards and 9 td's in 13 games, then why isn't Manningham elite with 703 yards in 9 games (and being very limited in the Indiana game) and 9 touchdowns? Besides the return ability that is
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i like how pretty much all michigan fans on this board respect and support osu players in terms of the draft (unless overrated/overhyped ie. laurenaitis) but the majority of osu fans on this board cant get over their hatred for michigan and knock every michigan player at every opportunity. shows a difference in fanbase mentalities.

manningham would be a mid-late first this year, a top 15 pick next year. if he can bulk up and improve his short game, he can definitely be a top 10 pick this year.
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he is my #1... honestly.. great route runner, just seems like a football player to me. best double move reciever.. cant teach that
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he is my #1... honestly.. great route runner, just seems like a football player to me. best double move reciever.. cant teach that
His double-move is going to get SHUT-DOWN in the pros, one-trick ponies don't make it in the NFL.

He has to get a short/intermediate game before he's a top prospect, faster/stronger CBs will mess him up if all he can do is run deep routes in the pros.
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I don't know much about Manningham. I've seen him have some pretty big games. I'll pay more attention this next season.

In reading this thread, the name Desean Jackson seems to come up a lot. Again, I don't get to watch many Cal games (I live in MO) so I have seen very little of the guy.

Now, doesn't it bother anyone else that Jackson is listed at 165-175 pounds? I can imagine him exploding if he gets hit.

Can someone fill me in......has he bulked up any? If he does bulk up, how much speed and quickness would he lose?
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he is good but by next year he will fall into the 20's to 30's overall in the draft. It will be hard for him to do what he did last year again this year. I mean, how many three td games can a guy have? and besides, he does it against lackluster competition
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he is good but by next year he will fall into the 20's to 30's overall in the draft. It will be hard for him to do what he did last year again this year. I mean, how many three td games can a guy have? and besides, he does it against lackluster competition
I think someone in this thread was right, the OSU fans just can't stop hatin.
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he is good but by next year he will fall into the 20's to 30's overall in the draft. It will be hard for him to do what he did last year again this year. I mean, how many three td games can a guy have? and besides, he does it against lackluster competition
So you consider Wisconsin lackluster competition? 7 for 113 and 2 TD's against them. 99 total yards against OSU. Hell he put up 79 yards against USC, and Michigan's offense as a whole struggled. That said, he needs to improve his route running on short and medium routes, and keep better concentration on those routes, as he's dropped easy passes in that range. I would also agree that strength is an issue right now. If he comes out next year, I actually think you might be right though, I'd see him as more of a late first rounder as of now, but that could change depending on how he developes next season.
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I think someone in this thread was right, the OSU fans just can't stop hatin.
That's OSU fans for you. That's why I felt bad for Braylon when he went to Cleveland. Alot of their "fans" support OSU more than the Browns. I remember him getting booed when he was introduced in his first game.
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