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Old 02-22-2012, 11:22 PM    (permalink
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Go to the last bullet point:

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/ni...tId=b logDest

I now have no interest in watching the Cowboys until that changes. I'm unbelievably pissed.
Tried to tell you that Ratliff would never make a permanent move away from NT. I don't think this means we won't pursue a big body to rotate in there. Especially in the later rounds.

Although I still hope they go for a guy like Soliai, Pouha or another established NT, I feel your frustration. But it's not like we run your typical 2 gap 3-4 defense where everything is predicated up on that type of NT.
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Tried to tell you that Ratliff would never make a permanent move away from NT. I don't think this means we won't pursue a big body to rotate in there. Especially in the later rounds.

Although I still hope they go for a guy like Soliai, Pouha or another established NT, I feel your frustration. But it's not like we run your typical 2 gap 3-4 defense where everything is predicated up on that type of NT.
I just think it's the dumbest situation ever. And now we obviously aren't to go after a big body besides maybe a late round flyer. I don't get it. Unless they are moving to the 4-3..? But I doubt it.

This team will get run on with ease in the 4th quarter and after thanksgiving if we keep Ratliff at NT. I am baffled. Chalk up a 1 in the bad decisions department.

By the way, did you ban Bob or is he just not posting?
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Not really, as of now he's an unrestricted free agent and we have cap space. Why not speculate? Why even talk about the draft then? That's way more uncertain than Nicks hitting the market or not.

But it doesn't matter now, we are never going to win in the playoffs with Ratliff at NT. We might as well concede defeat for the next 4 years.
Because not all speculation is the same. You can speculate in fantasy land or speculate close to reality. You seem to prefer the former. Go catch up on the latest Carl Nicks news. Saints are ALL about using the franchise tag on him if they can't agree to a long term deal.
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I just think it's the dumbest situation ever. And now we obviously aren't to go after a big body besides maybe a late round flyer. I don't get it. Unless they are moving to the 4-3..? But I doubt it.

This team will get run on with ease in the 4th quarter and after thanksgiving if we keep Ratliff at NT. I am baffled. Chalk up a 1 in the bad decisions department.

By the way, did you ban Bob or is he just not posting?
He's just not posting I guess.

Stop overreacting. Our run defense was fine last year and I expect it'll only get better. We held opposing RBs to less than 100 yards a game. The SB champions allowed 121 yards a game to opposing RBs.

Our secondary is where we need the most help. I think adding a dynamic front 7 guy is going to be damn important too though.
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He's just not posting I guess.

Stop overreacting. Our run defense was fine last year and I expect it'll only get better. We held opposing RBs to less than 100 yards a game. The SB champions allowed 121 yards a game to opposing RBs.

Our secondary is where we need the most help. I think adding a dynamic front 7 guy is going to be damn important too though.
The thing is we will never get a push from our DE's with Ratliff at NT. I don't care who we draft or pick up. Terrible mistake.
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The thing is we will never get a push from our DE's with Ratliff at NT. I don't care who we draft or pick up. Terrible mistake.
You are also forgetting the very good showing Josh Brent put on. He has the size and ability to anchor at nose. Give Rob a full offseason I expect to see Ratliff at every place on the defensive line. Josh Brent earned more playing time.

Keep an eye out for Lisse during camp too. We all are hoping to see Ratliff manning a DE spot but I wouldn't expect it on a full-time basis. Perhaps seeing Brent steal some of the snaps in 1st and 2nd letting Ratliff take snaps away from Coleman etc.
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Because not all speculation is the same. You can speculate in fantasy land or speculate close to reality. You seem to prefer the former. Go catch up on the latest Carl Nicks news. Saints are ALL about using the franchise tag on him if they can't agree to a long term deal.
Nicks only gets the tag if Brees gets his deal prior to FA starting.
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I tweeted at Broaddus about Ratliff asking him if leaving Ratliff there is a mistake, and he said this:

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It's not like they just play 3-4, they play a good deal of four man line. Rolling Lissemore and Brent at nose will help him.
Maybe I overreacted a little bit, but I still don't like it. It makes no sense to be. Oh well.

On a positive note, "Hey Rookie" was just on NFL Network, and this episode had Joe Haden. In it was his secondary coach at the time, Jerome Henderson. He sounded like a boss. I love the hire. Campo was a freakin' bum.
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I tweeted at Broaddus about Ratliff asking him if leaving Ratliff there is a mistake, and he said this:



Maybe I overreacted a little bit, but I still don't like it. It makes no sense to be. Oh well.

On a positive note, "Hey Rookie" was just on NFL Network, and this episode had Joe Haden. In it was his secondary coach at the time, Jerome Henderson. He sounded like a boss. I love the hire. Campo was a freakin' bum.
Yea that was the point I was about to make, it's not like we're a traditional 3-4 team anyway. We run a TON of 4 man fronts that puts Ratliff in favorable matchups over Guards. I actually read an article that said we only ran a true 34 look like 15% of the time this year, I'll try to find it... but I have a feeling that's more due to the fact that Rob recognizes our personel doesn't quite fit the 34 mold. I'd still like to see the team bring in a true NT because it'll provide Rob more versatility for his gameplans, but it's not the end of the world if it doesn't happen.

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I tweeted at Broaddus about Ratliff asking him if leaving Ratliff there is a mistake, and he said this:



Maybe I overreacted a little bit, but I still don't like it. It makes no sense to be. Oh well.

On a positive note, "Hey Rookie" was just on NFL Network, and this episode had Joe Haden. In it was his secondary coach at the time, Jerome Henderson. He sounded like a boss. I love the hire. Campo was a freakin' bum.
What you overreacting, no way!!!
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What you overreacting, no way!!!
I still think it's a terrible decision and come December we will get run all over, but whatever I can't do anything about it. We haven't even talked about how this effects Lee and Carter, who are both more athletic type guys. I just don't get it. Smh.

At the combine Garrett just said Tyron is moving to LT and Free is going to the right side, so that's official. It's on pretty much every cowboys related site by now if you want to read it yourself.
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I still think it's a terrible decision and come December we will get run all over, but whatever I can't do anything about it. We haven't even talked about how this effects Lee and Carter, who are both more athletic type guys. I just don't get it. Smh.

At the combine Garrett just said Tyron is moving to LT and Free is going to the right side, so that's official. It's on pretty much every cowboys related site by now if you want to read it yourself.
I read JG and Callahan both say it was a good possibility weeks ago, so that's good that it's official.
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Another fact I just realized that makes me hate Ratliff at NT even more.... HE'S THE SMALLEST D-LINEMAN ON OUR TEAM! Even Geathers is heavier than him. Broaddus said Lissemore and Brent will spell him... it better be a lot.

We just signed ratliff to a 7 year, 40 million dollar deal and he's turning 31... leaving him at NT makes that contract look moronic. Whatever.
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We just signed ratliff to a 7 year, 40 million dollar deal and he's turning 31... leaving him at NT makes that contract look moronic. Whatever.
It was over five years, and i imagine that after the first two or three, he's easily cuttable. relax.
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Another fact I just realized that makes me hate Ratliff at NT even more.... HE'S THE SMALLEST D-LINEMAN ON OUR TEAM! Even Geathers is heavier than him. Broaddus said Lissemore and Brent will spell him... it better be a lot.

We just signed ratliff to a 7 year, 40 million dollar deal and he's turning 31... leaving him at NT makes that contract look moronic. Whatever.
Jeez, you never overreact.
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It will be interesting to see if the D-line is upgraded at all, chances are the team will be moving forward with the same rotation. Brockers could be an option but he could be top 10 by the time the draft rolls around. I've read a couple of scouting reports for Dontari Poe that claim he might be able to play some jumbo 5 tech in the mold of Ngata.... Any thoughts ?
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It just makes no sense. We are giving ourselves a distinct disadvantage by having a 285 pound NT who will wear down. I don't get how you guys don't think it's a big deal? It's like having no CB's on your roster in today's passing happy league. Might as well shoot ourselves in both foot, not just one.
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I'm in the minority in this, in fact I'm probably the only one who feels this way, but I feel that your front 7 needs to be upgraded more than your secondary.

I know I'm in the minority in that opinion though.
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I'm in the minority in this, in fact I'm probably the only one who feels this way, but I feel that your front 7 needs to be upgraded more than your secondary.

I know I'm in the minority in that opinion though.
BBD, what are your thoughts on keeping Ratliff at NT?
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I'm in the minority in this, in fact I'm probably the only one who feels this way, but I feel that your front 7 needs to be upgraded more than your secondary.

I know I'm in the minority in that opinion though.
Well, given that it's almost assured that Newman is gone, we need numbers so that prob makes DB a high priority. But I def agree with you that we desperately need a playmaker at OLB & DL.
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We have more players with ability along the d-line and front 7 than we do in the secondary. I know some of that is just sheer numbers, but we really played with dog poop for most of last year at safety and corner. Newman, Walker and Ball couldn't get out of here fast enough.
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I think it's about equal between the 2. We need about 2 on each end.
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I'm in the minority in this, in fact I'm probably the only one who feels this way, but I feel that your front 7 needs to be upgraded more than your secondary.

I know I'm in the minority in that opinion though.
You don't give the Giants secondary enough credit for the good play of the DL. I feel like you are speaking from the vantage point that the Giants won the SB because of the pressure you guys got from your front 4. ...and you really don't want to give your secondary much credit for helping out a lot.

For us? Honestly, we need help everywhere on defense and it doesn't really matter where. We need to be looking at BPA.
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Okay, count me on on signing Laron "Hulk" Landry
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