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imo the cowboys lost this game because the the chargers just wanted it more. from the players not making plays witten and dez 3rd down drops (yeah i know there tough catches but elite players make those plays) and the coaching staff (conservative gameplan on offense and not blitzing the least mobile qb in the league)

every cowboy fan seems to have the same opinion that we need to run the ball more, but against 32nd ranked pass defense we should attacking that secondary. san diego spread the field and create mismatches with our linebackers. but were running the same stuff on offense and targeting terrance williams more than dez bryant. the way the offense has played over the 1st 3 games is not going to get it done against the better offenses like were gonna see the rest of the season, and especially next week. i believe we need to be more aggressive trying to push the ball downfield and take more chances. maybe we'll commit a turnover or 2 but this safe alex smith type passing game is the reason we haven't score alot points even though we've played 3 terrible pass defenses in the first 4 games.

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Way too early to go by rankings. It was based off 3 games. We needed to run the ball more.
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Way too early to go by rankings. It was based off 3 games. We needed to run the ball more.
its not to early you can watch them play and see that their secondary is garbage. the offense shouldn't be about how many times you run it vs how many times you pass, but it always attack a defenses weakness that what great offense do.

we have dez bryant and jason witten vs the worst pass defense in the league. exploit their weakness, we did it in the 2nd quarter then came out in the second half and back to that dink and dunk lets not turn it over offense
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its not to early you can watch them play and see that their secondary is garbage. the offense shouldn't be about how many times you run it vs how many times you pass, but it always attack a defenses weakness that what great offense do.

we have dez bryant and jason witten vs the worst pass defense in the league. exploit their weakness, we did it in the 2nd quarter then came out in the second half and back to that dink and dunk lets not turn it over offense
Yup the Dink and dunk sucks too.
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I really don't see how the offense played that badly when they barely had the ball in the third quarter because the defense couldn't get off the field. sure they could have played better, but it was more of a case of them not being able to actually play since the Chargers held the ball well and executed. Looking at this loss I think the coaches need to go back to the drawing board and look at where they couldn't adjust. From a personnel perspective I'm not seeing too many issues yet. I'd like them to add a stud DT next to Hatcher, but even then Bruce Carter had a bad day today, and there's no way in hell I think that's a continual thing for him. Hopefully he'll bounce back next week.
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Got pocketaces to the darkside too. Not that hard to do given results, but hey.
Nobody makes stupid ass comments like calling Ware a 1st half player.
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I really don't see how the offense played that badly when they barely had the ball in the third quarter because the defense couldn't get off the field. sure they could have played better, but it was more of a case of them not being able to actually play since the Chargers held the ball well and executed. Looking at this loss I think the coaches need to go back to the drawing board and look at where they couldn't adjust. From a personnel perspective I'm not seeing too many issues yet. I'd like them to add a stud DT next to Hatcher, but even then Bruce Carter had a bad day today, and there's no way in hell I think that's a continual thing for him. Hopefully he'll bounce back next week.
look at the difference in how each offense played. we just did what we've always done through the first 3 games.

the chargers spread the field out tried to isolate guys to create mismatches(carter vs woodhead) and they attacked claiborne who hasn't yet quite found himself down the field. at any point did we ever put lance dunbar in the game and try to get him matched up 1 on 1 vs manti te'o, no. how bout running crossing routes to combat them playing all the 4 deep coverage and forcing them to play more man to man and then go deep once they start play more man. once they start to play more nickel defense THEN lets run the ball like we did vs STL last week. watching the game its like we have no plan of attack on offense
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look at the difference in how each offense played. we just did what we've always done through the first 3 games.

the chargers spread the field out tried to isolate guys to create mismatches(carter vs woodhead) and they attacked claiborne who hasn't yet quite found himself down the field. at any point did we ever put lance dunbar in the game and try to get him matched up 1 on 1 vs manti te'o, no. how bout running crossing routes to combat them playing all the 4 deep coverage and forcing them to play more man to man and then go deep once they start play more man. once they start to play more nickel defense THEN lets run the ball like we did vs STL last week. watching the game its like we have no plan of attack on offense
Exactly. Last week we said we needed to run the ball more and we did to the tune of 175 yards by Murray. We open this game with a 10 yard run then didnt run it again the next 3 series. Murray averaged 5 yards a pop and he only got it 14 times. Again, we have NO identity. The Ram game was a complete game all the way around and then we follow it up with this. Its just the same old same old unfortunately.
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Damn it Romo!
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look at the difference in how each offense played. we just did what we've always done through the first 3 games.

the chargers spread the field out tried to isolate guys to create mismatches(carter vs woodhead) and they attacked claiborne who hasn't yet quite found himself down the field. at any point did we ever put lance dunbar in the game and try to get him matched up 1 on 1 vs manti te'o, no. how bout running crossing routes to combat them playing all the 4 deep coverage and forcing them to play more man to man and then go deep once they start play more man. once they start to play more nickel defense THEN lets run the ball like we did vs STL last week. watching the game its like we have no plan of attack on offense
I agree that they need a better plan of attack, but at the same time they were without the ball so often this game. I don't think that they were bad on offense today. Romo started off bad, but the passing game worked well after that. The running game was pretty good, but they abandoned it. I think that they could do better, but the problem this game was that they were out coached big time on defense.
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A quarter into the season, the Cowboys have a pair of wins over teams that are a combined 1-7 and have been outscored by a total of 137 points.

Cant wait to see what Peyton does to us.
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Oh I get it. The problem is Romo is not as good as Rivers. There's just nothing we can do about.

T-Will will get bashed for that fumble, but why wasn't the ball thrown to Dez?
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Damn it Romo!
Reading comprehension is your friend. I said the reason we lost is because Rivers is better than Romo.

We abandoned the run again and there's no question to me why our offense couldn't sustain drives aand keepthe chargers offense off the field. When we abandon the run and rely on Romo we will struggle to win.
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Reading comprehension is your friend. I said the reason we lost is because Rivers is better than Romo.

We abandoned the run again and there's no question to me why our offense couldn't sustain drives aand keepthe chargers offense off the field. When we abandon the run and rely on Romo we will struggle to win.
Rivers isnt THAT good, as a matter of fact he has sucked the last 2-3 years. Our D made him look THAT good.
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I think the Rivers Completion percentage pretty much tells the tale of the game. The Chargers had a great gameplan and finally exposed the blue print of how to attack our defense. By design Kiffin rarely operates with more than 5 DB's on the field, often leaving the LB's to take major coverage assignments out of the nickle alignment. When the offense operates out of open sets it creates spacing to attack both man and zone coverages. With so many players running in space gaps between zone coverage grow and throwing lanes become much easier to find. Not only do lanes open up, (especially in underneath coverage) the spacing delays the pursuit from the back end allowing the recieving player to have a much better chance to get YAC.

Now to combat the holes in zone coverage Kiffin attempted to mix in a good amount of man coverage. This is where Rivers was able to take advantage of matchups. While Carter and Lee are good coverage linebackers it is very difficult to defend against vertical routes downfield. We saw Carter get beat twice on a Woodhead wheel routes where Rivers simply put the ball over the top to the outside shoulder. Same with Lee who was burned on the seem route by Gates later in the game.

In all fairness the long developing routes should not have time to develop if the front four is putting consistent pressure on the QB. I think the lack of depth on the front line is hurt in this game as the Chargers line did a very good job of keeping a clean pocket. Time of Possession = death of the defense, killing the hustle when everyone is tired. Expect Denver to take a similar approach next week.
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I think the Rivers Completion percentage pretty much tells the tale of the game. The Chargers had a great gameplan and finally exposed the blue print of how to attack our defense. By design Kiffin rarely operates with more than 5 DB's on the field, often leaving the LB's to take major coverage assignments out of the nickle alignment. When the offense operates out of open sets it creates spacing to attack both man and zone coverages. With so many players running in space gaps between zone coverage grow and throwing lanes become much easier to find. Not only do lanes open up, (especially in underneath coverage) the spacing delays the pursuit from the back end allowing the recieving player to have a much better chance to get YAC.

Now to combat the holes in zone coverage Kiffin attempted to mix in a good amount of man coverage. This is where Rivers was able to take advantage of matchups. While Carter and Lee are good coverage linebackers it is very difficult to defend against vertical routes downfield. We saw Carter get beat twice on a Woodhead wheel routes where Rivers simply put the ball over the top to the outside shoulder. Same with Lee who was burned on the seem route by Gates later in the game.

In all fairness the long developing routes should not have time to develop if the front four is putting consistent pressure on the QB. I think the lack of depth on the front line is hurt in this game as the Chargers line did a very good job of keeping a clean pocket. Time of Possession = death of the defense, killing the hustle when everyone is tired. Expect Denver to take a similar approach next week.
+rep. Everything you said is on the money. Add in a dash of abandoning the running game and you have the encompassing reasons for why we lost yesterday.

Mike McCoy thoroughly out-schemed Kiffin yesterday to the extent where I'm not sure that Rivers looked uncomfortable at any point of time aside from the Hatcher forced pick-6. Not looking forward to Peyton Manning throwing for 400+ yards next week either.
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Nobody makes stupid ass comments like calling Ware a 1st half player.
He is. Look up his stats on sacks. Perfect example, best game he ever had with 4 sacks and 10 tackles we lost 34-7. And yes I know this a bad example of one data point.

I have watched him for a long time and can say without a doubt he a first half player and I can't remember too many games a player of his stature actually went out and won the game.

Maybe the comparison is unfair, but LT won games. He terrorized teams and created turnovers. Great player. Ware is a great player but his impact on this Defense is not what he is accorded in terms of rep.

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A quarter into the season, the Cowboys have a pair of wins over teams that are a combined 1-7 and have been outscored by a total of 137 points.

Cant wait to see what Peyton does to us.
As I stated, anyone who has watched understands this is not a good team on either side of the ball.

The D has been bad in 3 of the 4 games. The O too.

We have 2 wins b/c the two teams we beat are pretty bad.

Two mediocre teams beat us. Handily albeit on the road.
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Rivers isnt THAT good, as a matter of fact he has sucked the last 2-3 years. Our D made him look THAT good.
Have you watched Rivers this year....he has been playing lights out. 11TDs to 2 INTs and almost 1200 yards through 4 games. Averaging 300 yards and 2.75 TDs a game to only .5 INT.
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Rivers isnt THAT good, as a matter of fact he has sucked the last 2-3 years. Our D made him look THAT good.
He's having an outstanding year, and seems to be back to his old form. The scheme worked to attack our weaknesses, and never let up, unlike the Garrett/Callahan style of exposing a weakness, then trying to find another one, instead of attacking until the other team stops it.

Again, all this talk of defense, they had a bad game against a very good QB. Sometimes this happens. This offense is averaging 21 pts a game over 4 games, and if you take out the Rams game, it's 18 pts a game. Sometimes you have to outplay a good offensive team, and we can't do it.
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Also just some food for thought. I've been doing some betting this year. Bet Indy over SF last week and NE or ATL this week. IMO the AFC is on another level then the NFC. So although we have 2 loses...they are both to out of conference teams. Hell even when we lose next week to the Broncos we are still in good position. We just need to handle business against the NFC East at this point. The rest will take care of itself. Hard to watch us get carved up...but rather it be a AFC opponent then a NFC one.
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Also just some food for thought. I've been doing some betting this year. Bet Indy over SF last week and NE or ATL this week. IMO the AFC is on another level then the NFC. So although we have 2 loses...they are both to out of conference teams. Hell even when we lose next week to the Broncos we are still in good position. We just need to handle business against the NFC East at this point. The rest will take care of itself. Hard to watch us get carved up...but rather it be a AFC opponent then a NFC one.
Tough road ahead considering the defense has a weakness against the spread and the read option. The Broncos, Lions, Saints, Giants, and Packers all feature high octane spread looks on offense. While the Redskins x2, Raiders, and Eagles x2 all run forms of the read option.

The offense needs to be able to sustain drives and eat up clock to give our defense a chance.
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He's having an outstanding year, and seems to be back to his old form. The scheme worked to attack our weaknesses, and never let up, unlike the Garrett/Callahan style of exposing a weakness, then trying to find another one, instead of attacking until the other team stops it.

Again, all this talk of defense, they had a bad game against a very good QB. Sometimes this happens. This offense is averaging 21 pts a game over 4 games, and if you take out the Rams game, it's 18 pts a game. Sometimes you have to outplay a good offensive team, and we can't do it.
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He's having an outstanding year, and seems to be back to his old form. The scheme worked to attack our weaknesses, and never let up, unlike the Garrett/Callahan style of exposing a weakness, then trying to find another one, instead of attacking until the other team stops it.

Again, all this talk of defense, they had a bad game against a very good QB. Sometimes this happens. This offense is averaging 21 pts a game over 4 games, and if you take out the Rams game, it's 18 pts a game. Sometimes you have to outplay a good offensive team, and we can't do it.
21 of our Points have been generated by the D too. Even worse.
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http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/...ght-win-season

Pythagorean Formula. We've used the formula often before to measure overall team strength, on the hypothesis that a team's true strength could be measured more accurately by looking at points scored and points allowed, rather than by looking at wins and losses. This is the NFL version of the formula:

Points Scored2.37
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Points Scored2.37 + Points Allowed2.37

Dallas - 9.4 projected wins
Washington - 5.6 projected wins
Philadelphia - 4.8 projected wins
New York Giants - 1.3 projected wins

8-8 could be a playoff birth...worst case scenario.
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