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Murray had seven carries in the second half. FInished with a 7.4-yard average per carry. This is just unacceptable. We did this same exact thing against Detroit at home a few years ago. Garrett has to go. There is no other solution
Leaning that way as well. I've been a pretty staunch Garrett defender but I have no support for him anymore. He isn't the same offensive mind as when he was OC under Wade.

Garrett has me feeling anti-Cowboys at the moment wondering if a loss to the 'Skins would be better for us. I hate saying that. It is vinegar in my mouth but with the defense playing at this level we don't have a prayer against any playoff bound team.
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Beasley on 2 INT: "I saw the cornerback & I throttled down a little bit. I don't have the option to do that on that play That was my fault."

DAMN IT ROMO!!
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Romo checked out of the run. Damnit romo!

So is it Garrett's fault for calling a run? Or Beaselys fault for letting up? Or the Ols fault for not giving Romo a few more seconds? Who's fault?

Except Romos?

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Romo checked out of the run. Damnit romo!

So is it Garrett's fault for calling a run? Or Beaselys fault for letting up? Or the Ols fault for not giving Romo a few more seconds? Who's fault?

Except Romos?
Seems like the WR said whos fault it was. But it doesnt really matter to you does it? Romo is the reason why we lost no matter what anybody on the team says or what actually happened. Your mind is made up. Your a hater. Nothing will change that.
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Here's the interesting question that will torment me over the next two weeks. Is Jerry at least semi-smart enough to realize that Garrett should be gone at the end of the year, or does he need two losses to figure that out? If the Cowboys win next week they still have a shot, and if they choke again to Philly at the end of the year I'm hoping that Jerrah doesn't buy into any excuses. The only thing that should save Garrett is a Super Bowl appearance. No matter how many injuries has happened this team has lost too many games they should have won. KC, Detroit, and now this one should put the nail in the coffin for JG.

It's absolutely unacceptable how many times this has happened already, but what may be worse is that Jerrah may keep Garrett around if they somehow make it to the playoffs. So there is a part of me that wants to see them lose out so that Jerrah gets rid of JG, but at the same time I can't stand to see the Cowboys lose. It's like back when D-Unit wanted them to suck for Peterson a few years back, and I was like, "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" I may just join the losing bandwagon because Garrett just cannot be here next year.
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With the 114th pick in the 2014 NFL draft the Dallas Cowboys proudly select:

Shilique Calhoun, DE, Michigan St

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1. Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama*
2. Will Sutton, DT, Arizona St
3. James Hurst, OT North Carolina
4. Shilique Calhoun, DE, Michigan St


Who knows maybe with a talent infusion our defense might not suck so hard. :/
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Romo checked out of the run. Damnit romo!

So is it Garrett's fault for calling a run? Or Beaselys fault for letting up? Or the Ols fault for not giving Romo a few more seconds? Who's fault?

Except Romos?
becuase they should have been running to preserve the lead, not to come back in desperation. you being serious?
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Romo checked out of the run. Damnit romo!

So is it Garrett's fault for calling a run? Or Beaselys fault for letting up? Or the Ols fault for not giving Romo a few more seconds? Who's fault?

Except Romos?
so i'm assuming romo gave up 5 tds on 5 possessions in a row too right.
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so i'm assuming romo gave up 5 tds on 5 possessions in a row too right.
Flynn came into this game with 3 TDs. We gave up 4 in the 2nd half. Our D is at an expansion level. Makes no sense.
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"The idea was to run the ball and use clock" - Garrett post-game
How does the game execution deviate so far away from what the HC wants to do?

This really concerns me...

Which is it?

A) The OC doesn't listen to him?
B) The QB doesn't listen to him?
C) Other?
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Flynn came into this game with 3 TDs. We gave up 4 in the 2nd half. Our D is at an expansion level. Makes no sense.
Flynn is a FA at the end of the season. My mind is trying to think openly here...
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How does the game execution deviate so far away from what the HC wants to do?

This really concerns me...

Which is it?

A) The OC doesn't listen to him?
B) The QB doesn't listen to him?
C) Other?
I think he's trolling Dallas. He's seeing how much he can get in before Jerry Jones fires him.

I mean he's a Don Coryell (vertical passing) disciple running a borderline WCO. He finds something that works offensively only to scrap it. Whether it's the run. Seam routes. Dez.

Perhaps this is a desperate cry for help from Jason asking for our help as fans to get Jerry to fire him.

All of that would make more sense than not running the ball with a 23 point lead against a team that can't stop the run. :/
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Flynn came into this game with 3 TDs. We gave up 4 in the 2nd half. Our D is at an expansion level. Makes no sense.
matt flynn has been passed around the nfl more than kim kardashian, if there any qb we should have a chance against its him, he couldn't even beat terrelle pryor who passing skills rival tim tebow's. matt flynn is garbage and they don''t have their best playmaker on offense (randall cobb) that was a pitiful performance in the second half, no excuses.

brandon carr isn't expansion level nor is d-ware or hatcher yet none of these guys are even making a few plays here or there to help, i don't know what happened to the emotion the defense played with in the first half but they left it in the locker room after halftime.

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Seems like the WR said whos fault it was. But it doesnt really matter to you does it? Romo is the reason why we lost no matter what anybody on the team says or what actually happened. Your mind is made up. Your a hater. Nothing will change that.
What about the other int? Or what role he had in checking out of called runs? Or why every time romo throws an int, there's a story on why some 2nd stringer screwed up?

Garrett needs to go, and we need a strong presence at head coach, but I am wondering how far we'll ever go with romo as the qb.
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What about the other int? Or what role he had in checking out of called runs? Or why every time romo throws an int, there's a story on why some 2nd stringer screwed up?

Garrett needs to go, and we need a strong presence at head coach, but I am wondering how far we'll ever go with romo as the qb.
I said, as well as others, that Romo deserves his share of the blame but to say hes the reason we lost is idiotic. And why is it when "some 2nd teamer" screws up you dont accept it and say its Romo's fault regardless? Can you tell me exactly how many run calls he checked out of? My son plays QB in college and I coached him all the way up to HS. If I told him to run the ball and he threw a pass, I can promise you he wouldnt have done it twice. I realize they are on a whole other level but the HC has to make it clear WE ARE RUNNING THE BALL. This wouldnt happen under Jimmy or Parcells or somebody like that.
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Let that sink in.
LOL, you're such a troll.

Nearly half of that is on Anthony Spencer's franchise tag. Ratliff's $6.9M portion of that will probably be litigated upon.

What I really want to measure is how much of our salary is being spent on players that have been hurt for 3 or more games this year. THAT would be an interesting dollar amount to follow and compare with the rest of the league.

Cause if you take out Ratliff's dollars from our Dead Money total, we are actually doing pretty good. Would've looked a lot worse if we had cut Free and/or Austin last summer.

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LOL, you're such a troll.

Nearly half of that is on Anthony Spencer's franchise tag. Ratliff's $6.9M portion of that will probably be litigated upon.

What I really want to measure is how much of our salary is being spent on players that have been hurt for 3 or more games this year. THAT would be an interesting dollar amount to follow and compare with the rest of the league.

Cause if you take out Ratliff's dollars from our Dead Money total, we are actually doing pretty good. Would've looked a lot worse if we had cut Free and/or Austin last summer.
I wasn't trolling. Just saw this last night and was SMH.
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I said, as well as others, that Romo deserves his share of the blame but to say hes the reason we lost is idiotic. And why is it when "some 2nd teamer" screws up you dont accept it and say its Romo's fault regardless? Can you tell me exactly how many run calls he checked out of? My son plays QB in college and I coached him all the way up to HS. If I told him to run the ball and he threw a pass, I can promise you he wouldnt have done it twice. I realize they are on a whole other level but the HC has to make it clear WE ARE RUNNING THE BALL. This wouldnt happen under Jimmy or Parcells or somebody like that.
Your star QB has to realize what the best call in that situation is, he just has to. And it's been documented that Romo chose to pass on that play. So not only did he throw a poor pass, he is the one who chose to pass. The whole play, the game changing play is on your top 5 QB.

As to the whole pass/run fiasco, no one is saying that's all Romo, but I wonder how many times he had a run play called and either "checked out" or simply chose the pass option on a "packaged play".
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Your star QB has to realize what the best call in that situation is, he just has to. And it's been documented that Romo chose to pass on that play. So not only did he throw a poor pass, he is the one who chose to pass. The whole play, the game changing play is on your top 5 QB.

As to the whole pass/run fiasco, no one is saying that's all Romo, but I wonder how many times he had a run play called and either "checked out" or simply chose the pass option on a "packaged play".
I agree he HAS to be smarter than that NO MATTER what the Defense is showing. But also Garrett gave up play calling duties to be the walk around HC for times EXACTLY like that one. He talks to Romo before every play and he should have told him to run the ball no matter what.
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Your star QB has to realize what the best call in that situation is, he just has to. And it's been documented that Romo chose to pass on that play. So not only did he throw a poor pass, he is the one who chose to pass. The whole play, the game changing play is on your top 5 QB.

As to the whole pass/run fiasco, no one is saying that's all Romo, but I wonder how many times he had a run play called and either "checked out" or simply chose the pass option on a "packaged play".
Sorry, top 5 quarterbacks make the right decision in this situation.
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Still in disbelief this morning.

26-3 up. We could have run power-I for every play call the rest of the game and probably won. The only way we manage to lose is by giving the Packers enough time to win the game. We knew, deep down, that our defense was going to fall flat on its face so why in the world were we not killing off the game.

Also - Romo made a poor decision on the package play. Garrett made an atrocious call by making it a package play. Call a freaking run and stop being an idiot. Garrett is not smart enough to be a smug asshole in post-game chat. His play-calling doomed a team that executed at a high school level in the second half.

Sad part for Tony is that 99% of QBs get sacked on the package play but because he is in the 1% able to get away from Matthews it results in a turnover.

I 10000% want Garrett to own play-calling completely these last two weeks. So when it occurs again, and again, he doesn't have the "package play" crutch. We've passed the ball repeatedly in running situations ever since he took over as HC. Lets not pretend Romo with his new-found play-caller voice is the sole reason we pass too much.
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Oh wanted to add for those who think the only reason Dallas didn't run the ball was due to a ton of audibles out of running plays... it isn't true. Garrett/Callahan made an adjustment at halftime to come out passing to exploit a weakness... what?

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The errors are now seemingly becoming more glaring. This time around, not only was there an ill-advised change of strategy that was made at halftime, that snafu was compounded by an additional faux pas. The Dallas brain-trust also demonstrated an inability to comprehend that either their "adjustment" was not working or they revealed a refusal to accept that they were wrong in their choice. Either way, it was another case of sideline incompetence on the part of the upper echelon of the Cowboys coaching staff.

At this point, Cowboys fans have been treated to nearly three full seasons of this type of "head in hiney hole" type of decision making. I have defended Jason Garrett at every opportunity; I love the change in culture that he brought to the team. Still, enough is enough. Garrett has preached about stacking one good performance on top of another since he took over. While that is a good thing, the truth is that Jason Garrett's personal stack of good performances is not nearly as high as it should be. The time has come for some accountability, another buzzword of the Garrett era. In my opinion, the time has come for someone else to man the sidelines in Dallas.
So much of this. Also Garrett talks about accountability and yet in his post-game comments he throws Romo AND Callahan under the bus for play-calling. Yet he forced his way back into the communication chain in order to have veto power.

Garrett refused to acknowledge he played any role in the loss. I don't want him to exonerate players for mistakes. I love that he calls them out. What I don't want to see is him being UNWILLING to acknowledge that he played a major part in the loss. Keeping him around another season would be a major mistake.

On top of that he does not have control of the team. There is ZERO reason Dez left the sideline before the end of the game. I love Dez and he's our best offensive player but you can't leave the field with over a minute to play.
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something I've been saying all year. Actually prior to the season. Now its' become even more apparent. Not a head coach. Has no idea what he is doing.

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