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Old 03-30-2014, 09:58 AM    (permalink
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I'm on the Johnny bandwagon. If he's there at 16 it would make way too much sense to take him, therefore we probably won't. We might trade out of the first round for a couple of third round picks.
32nd ranked D, lets take a QB that wont play for 3-4 years. Makes way too much sense. Lol.
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You think we're fielding a competitive team this season?(by competitive I mean SB, not 8-9 wins)

Makes sense to build on the youth the Boys have been able to turnover and seriously compete in 2-3 years.
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You think we're fielding a competitive team this season?(by competitive I mean SB, not 8-9 wins)

Makes sense to build on the youth the Boys have been able to turnover and seriously compete in 2-3 years.
If thats the case why give your 32yo QB a $100M contract? We cant compete with a young dominate D in 2-3 years? Party boy Johnny's not the guy I would want to give a massive contract to either.
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Seems like the NFL's view of Johnny Manziel is slowly but surely being uncloaked, and it isn't overwhelmingly favorable.
Bust. Mark it down.
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Johnny is the real deal Holyfield. One of those guys that makes those around him better and will's his team to victory despite other flaws on his team.

He will make NFL defenses look silly at times. Just like he made Alabama's (closest thing to an NFL defense in college football) look silly.
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If thats the case why give your 32yo QB a $100M contract? We cant compete with a young dominate D in 2-3 years? Party boy Johnny's not the guy I would want to give a massive contract to either.
Because he's duped you and Jerry into thinking he can put a team on his back.

*shrugs* that's the past. I'm more concerned with the future

He'd cost peanuts... Not a massive contract at all.
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Bust. Mark it down.
Remember when Dez supposedly had the worst background of any player to ever come out? Yeah. I'm not buying it. I think it's just someone trying to stir up something to talk about before the draft.
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Johnny is the real deal Holyfield. One of those guys that makes those around him better and will's his team to victory despite other flaws on his team.

He will make NFL defenses look silly at times. Just like he made Alabama's (closest thing to an NFL defense in college football) look silly.
You must think highly of Trevor Knight cuz he did nothing all year but lit up that "NFL D of college football" like he was playing 7 on 7.

Just show him the money and watch what happens.



If he makes it to 16, its because the NFL is over the hype.
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Because he's duped you and Jerry into thinking he can put a team on his back.

*shrugs* that's the past. I'm more concerned with the future

He'd cost peanuts... Not a massive contract at all.
He didnt dupe me into anything. Last time I checked my money is in my pocket. Jerruh gets duped into a lot of things and those things hurt the present and the future. Selecting Johnny boy would be another set back.
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You must think highly of Trevor Knight cuz he did nothing all year but lit up that "NFL D of college football" like he was playing 7 on 7.

Just show him the money and watch what happens.



If he makes it to 16, its because the NFL is over the hype.
Hahahaha... Another classic Pocket misunderstanding reflection post. I love it anytime you start posts with "You must think...." or "If you think that then..." or "If I read that correctly then..." or "That's the same thing as saying..." because every time you never fail me. It always ends up being the worst analogy ever created by mankind.

Please tell me how Knight is anything close to Manziel. I'd love to see this. *waiting*
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Hahahaha... Another classic Pocket misunderstanding reflection post. I love it anytime you start posts with "You must think...." or "If you think that then..." or "If I read that correctly then..." or "That's the same thing as saying..." because every time you never fail me. It always ends up being the worst analogy ever created by mankind.

Please tell me how Knight is anything close to Manziel. I'd love to see this. *waiting*
Hahhaha Lets see. Ill type sloooooow so maybe you can catch on. Johnny lit up Alabama who posses an "NFL type D" Trevor who was a HUGE disappointment for OU, lit up that same "NFL type D" in their bowl game, which connecting the dots means that ONCE AGAIN you made a statement thats not true because CLEARLY you havent done your research. That D isnt anywhere close to being a "NFL type of D" and ONCE AGAIN your buying into the HYPE. Talk about the BSPN hype machine.

I love how when you dont like a prospect or player you say so. Then when he winds up a Cowboy you change your mind "after research" LOL. Im sure when Johnny busts it'll be the same. "I LOVE Johnny football" after bust "I didnt really like him after doing more research" too funny.
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What if he doesn't bust? and he's in a Cowboys Uniform when he doesn't?


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What if he doesn't bust? and he's in a Cowboys Uniform when he doesn't?


Then I'll eat my words. AND I wont even say I changed my mind after "research"
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Then I'll eat my words. AND I wont even say I changed my mind after "research"
Means nothing....you've been wrong before, you'll be wrong again. None of us know "for sure".


I just want a QB to groom behind the one with two back surgeries in a year, and that's been known to choke in key moments, that we all agree can't put a average team on his back to win a SB.


Is that too much to ask?
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Means nothing....you've been wrong before, you'll be wrong again. None of us know "for sure".


I just want a QB to groom behind the one with two back surgeries in a year, and that's been known to choke in key moments, that we all agree can't put a average team on his back to win a SB.


Is that too much to ask?
You are correct. That's just my opinion. And for me, I want that QB to come in the 4th round or later. I certainly don't want to burn a 1st rounder on one. Especially not the circus that is Johnny football.
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I'm a huge on Manziel. I think he's a special. He's the only player I wouldn't mind us taking that has zero chance at immediate impact this year.

This morning on NFL AM TD said he feels the perfect fit for CJ1K is the Cowboys. Thoughts?
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I'm a huge on Manziel. I think he's a special. He's the only player I wouldn't mind us taking that has zero chance at immediate impact this year.
In saying he's special, you mean that in the Special Olympics context of the word, right?
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In saying he's special, you mean that in the Special Olympics context of the word, right?
Lol. Like Tebow was "special"
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Lol. Like Tebow was "special"
Pretty much exactly.
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In saying he's special, you mean that in the Special Olympics context of the word, right?

Hahaha...nah. I'm not a college football fan at all. I've never seen him play live and I didn't keep up with the hype while he was playing. Just judging by the available tape online, I like him a lot.
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Lol. Like Tebow was "special"
No. Tebow got the God bump. Tebow was ******. Very bad. Him and Manziel play nothing alike. Judging by how Tebow threw the ball, I still believe that he is supposed to be right-handed. He is probably the worst thrower I've ever seen.


I can see how some ppl don't like Manziel. I like him b/c my #1 attribute I look for in QB's is how they can avoid a free rusher. In that department he's special. I can live with his negatives b/c he doesn't shut down when he sees defenders in his face. No QB can be successful if they shut down every time they don't get perfect 7-on-7 protection Blaine Gabbert style
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No. Tebow got the God bump. Tebow was ******. Very bad. Him and Manziel play nothing alike. Judging by how Tebow threw the ball, I still believe that he is supposed to be right-handed. He is probably the worst thrower I've ever seen.


I can see how some ppl don't like Manziel. I like him b/c my #1 attribute I look for in QB's is how they can avoid a free rusher. In that department he's special. I can live with his negatives b/c he doesn't shut down when he sees defenders in his face. No QB can be successful if they shut down every time they don't get perfect 7-on-7 protection Blaine Gabbert style
Nailed it.
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Nailed it.
The thing about Manziel on the Cowboys that Pocket is right about is the "circus" atmosphere that will bring. There is NO WAY he comes on the team and doesn't play in 2014 without that being the biggest story any given week. Romo is Romo, the minute he has a key INT/fumble, idiot moment, no matter how good the stats are, half the fan base and the media will be clamoring for Manziel to start.

More importantly, Manziel doesn't seem to be the sit and wait type, he's not playing the Rodgers role to Favre, especially if he slides to 16. So that leads to dissension, etc..
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The thing about Manziel on the Cowboys that Pocket is right about is the "circus" atmosphere that will bring. There is NO WAY he comes on the team and doesn't play in 2014 without that being the biggest story any given week. Romo is Romo, the minute he has a key INT/fumble, idiot moment, no matter how good the stats are, half the fan base and the media will be clamoring for Manziel to start.

More importantly, Manziel doesn't seem to be the sit and wait type, he's not playing the Rodgers role to Favre, especially if he slides to 16. So that leads to dissension, etc..
Nailed it.
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No. Tebow got the God bump. Tebow was ******. Very bad. Him and Manziel play nothing alike. Judging by how Tebow threw the ball, I still believe that he is supposed to be right-handed. He is probably the worst thrower I've ever seen.


I can see how some ppl don't like Manziel. I like him b/c my #1 attribute I look for in QB's is how they can avoid a free rusher. In that department he's special. I can live with his negatives b/c he doesn't shut down when he sees defenders in his face. No QB can be successful if they shut down every time they don't get perfect 7-on-7 protection Blaine Gabbert style
Not comparing the abilities of the players but the side show and bust potential. Bad Bad fit in Dallas IMO.
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