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Old 05-23-2007, 08:01 AM    (permalink
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Another good reading on Phillips 34 (http://espn.go.com/ncf/columns/davie/1430750.html - use this page to understand the parts about zone blitzing)

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Wade Phillips moved Bobby Carpenter and Kevin Burnett, outside linebackers in Bill Parcells’ system inside during the first camp. While the move revived the familiar debate of whether Carpenter is a bust, a closer look at Phillips’ scheme shows these are in no way demotions.

For a quick X & Os review of Phillips’ coverage, look at Bob Davie’s illustrated lecture on zone blitzing. Note his first diagram, where he shows a standard two deep coverage scheme with a four man rush.

Even though Davie diagrams this for a 4-3, this was Dallas’ standard package in the 3-4. The Cowboys rushed four men most of the time. Think of the weakside end “E” in the diagram, as Demarcus Ware and the “SB” or strong backer as Greg Ellis.

Dallas would most frequently rush the weakside end, so if the tight end lined up across from Ellis, he would drop and Ware would come. Conversely, if the TE faced Ware, he would cover and Ellis would rush.

You can see the problems caused by this scheme when Ellis tore his Achilles tendon. Unless the Cowboys flopped their ends, the offense could dictate which end rushed by flopping their TE. When both OLBs were healthy, either could pressure the QB. When Ware was the only big-time OLB rush option, teams would overshift to his side and push him into coverage.

Look at the back half of the zone, where each safety has responsibility over a deep half. This was the source of so many problems, as both Keith Davis and Pat Watkins had trouble rotating to their side and tracking deep balls in the air.

DC Brian Stewart told ESPN Radio in Dallas last week that the team would no longer employ this deep coverage, also freeing SS Roy Williams from deep patrol. What we can expect are more cover three looks (see Davie’s second diagram) where you have a free safety in the deep middle and the corners taking care of the sidelines of the deep thirds.

Note also that you now have four defenders responsble for the short zones, rather than five in the standard cover two looks.

Phillips will probably gamble even more with the short zones. He’s admitted he will zone blitz a lot of the time, bringing at least five men at the QB. When the Cowboys do, they’ll have only three short zone defenders, as opposed to five in the cover two Dallas played so much in ‘06. This will place a greater premium on recognition and speed.

Take a look at the last two diagrams in Davie’s piece for an idea of how this will work. In each case the defense rushes five and sets in a 3-3 look behind it. For a look at Phillips’ zone blitz in the flesh, refer to this video of the ‘06 Chargers against Pittsburgh.

Pay particular attention to the first blitz on the reel, labeled “OLB stunt.” Use the pause button in the lower left to stop the action as the play unfolds.

This is a classic weakside overload. The Chargers line up in a base 3-4 look prior to the snap, with NT Jamal Williams shading to the strong side. The first key to the play is San Diego’s late blitz deployment. ILB Donnie Edwards waits until just before the snap before hustling to the line and blitzing in the A gap between the center and left guard. His late deployment gave the Steelers’ linemen little time to recognize the blitz and adjust their blocking accordingly.

Contrast this to Dallas’ blitzes last year, which tipped off their intentions well before the snap and allowed opposing QBs to audible to nullifying plays. Think of Jeff Garcia’s many such adjustments in the second Eagles’ game.

Back to the Chargers’ blitz. At the snap they have four rushers deployed against three Pittsburgh blockers on Ben Roethlisberger’s blind side. Williams rushes between the C and RG, tying them up. Edwards draws the LG and DRE Igor Olshansky loops wide to his right, taking the Steelers’ LT with him.

As a result, there is nobody to block OLB Shawne Merriman, who loops inside Olshansky and has an open lane to the QB. He bears down on Roethlisberger and forces a hurried, off-balance throw that is picked off.

Move the video forwards a second or so and look at the Chargers’ coverage. You have a 3-3 deployment in the secondary. This looks like a 5-1 at first, because the CBs are crowding the line, but each has responsibility for receivers cutting deep through their areas while the FS takes the lone receiver running a deep route through the middle.

The shorter coverage raises several points about Dallas’ ‘07 schemes. First, note that on this play the SS has responsibility for the short zone on the defense’s right. This would be Roy Williams’ in a Cowboys’ package. When Stewart said Roy Williams would no longer be in deep cover two as he was last year, this is what he’s referring to. Williams will either blitz or work on short zones, waiting for flaring RBs or receivers running short crossing routes in front of him. This plays much better to his skills than trying to turn and run with TEs and receivers in space.

Next, note that if both OLBs are blitzing or if Williams is blitzing that the flats will be the ILBs responsibility. Who do you trust more to man these expanded short zones, James and Ayodele or guys like Burnett, who played in the nickel, and Carpenter, who demonstrated cover skills in the Seattle game, where he defensed three passes?

That’s why nobody should look upon the ILB moves as demotions. Burnett’s and Carpenter’s cover skills will probably have as much to do with Phillips’ blitzing success as Ware’s, Ellis’ and Spencers’ rush skills.
And watch out for this AMAZING job on films about Chargers' defense: http://www.bnbathletics.com/cowboysv...v/compare.html
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Modano- I finally went to the Tnew/achilles website (or what ever it is called.)

That is funny!!! But you guys are a little mean. I agree that some of the posts he makes sound like they are coming from my ret-arted cousin. But still, wont you feel bad if he turns out to be 15 years old?

Anyway, that was a good post!
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Well, Heisman, he is 15. I don't feel bad about it though because at 15 I had a good knowledge base of football and in the areas that I didn't I had the wisdom to keep my mouth shut instead of spouting off idiotic statements.
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Well, Heisman, he is 15. I don't feel bad about it though because at 15 I had a good knowledge base of football and in the areas that I didn't I had the wisdom to keep my mouth shut instead of spouting off idiotic statements.
Totally agree. And the blog is not a personal attack, it's not about the boy behind Achilles, it's about the "virtual person" here on this forum.

btw, this post has been boring recently. What do you all think of the videos of the two defenses last year?
I've always spoke of the Chargers success in attacking the QB saying that it was because of the scheme, not only the players. And infact they had sacks even without Phillips, Merriman or Castillo in the lineup.
It seems like Phillips is great in creating favorable matchups. The interception forced by Philips is the perfect example. He created a HUGE hole, Philips had only to run right through that hole and he was in the QB face.
The sack of Merriman is another perfect example of how to use your player properly. Phillips knows that a C or a G has no chance to caught Merriman blitizng from the outside, so he forced the tackle to block another guy and he took the sack.
Have you ever seen blitzes like that in our defense last year? I think this year we should have fun watching our defense playing.
Another intersting thing on this movies is the play of our D-line against the run. We can say for sure that they are very strong, the O-line (and Washington line was pretty good) wasn't able to move them off the line. Now we'll see if Phillips can use them properly.

Those are only a few videos of the past season, but imo they show enough of how much Zimmer defense underperfomed, because we had the right players, it was the scheme that didn't work.
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I plan on commenting on that soon enough. Lots to say, but little time right now. Don't worry, I'll get to it :D
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Nothing much to talk about these days, so here's a little funny bit from the cowboys blog:

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Finally, there's a blog post that links to this story about ex-kicker Jose Cortez becoming an Oregon state trooper. He's described in the story as "big and bilingual," but he'd better bring the Taser if he ever has to pull over Larry Allen.
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I think schemes are very underrated. However, have to laugh when Parcell's scheme gets so much critisizm.

I think Wade's scheme will make a big difference. But at this point, it is just me being a homer.

But the individual players (the D-line primarily) did not perform as well as they should have last year. The new scheme will help. But the players that have an excuse this year will have another excuse next year if they play poorly this year. NFL players always seem too.

As a side note, can someone explain to me why we would not attempt to get Sam Adams, and Kris Jenkins talks seem to be no exsistent? How can the boys seriously not try to get one of those guys? Maybe they aren't what they used to be, but I can't think of a good reason not to try. I feel like I am the only one concerned about the NT position.
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I think schemes are very underrated. However, have to laugh when Parcell's scheme gets so much critisizm.

I think Wade's scheme will make a big difference. But at this point, it is just me being a homer.

But the individual players (the D-line primarily) did not perform as well as they should have last year. The new scheme will help. But the players that have an excuse this year will have another excuse next year if they play poorly this year. NFL players always seem too.

As a side note, can someone explain to me why we would not attempt to get Sam Adams, and Kris Jenkins talks seem to be no exsistent? How can the boys seriously not try to get one of those guys? Maybe they aren't what they used to be, but I can't think of a good reason not to try. I feel like I am the only one concerned about the NT position.
You're definitely not the only one concerned. I was hoping we'd go after Adams. I wouldn't have thought he'd be too expensive, and playing that position, he might still have a couple of years left. Oh well, that ship has sailed.
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Cowboys add tight end

The Cowboys signed tight end Adam Bergen today. He started seven games for the Arizona Cardinals last season, making 15 catches for 111 yards and a touchdown.

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Flo's knee should be major concern

The great Calvin "Lucky" Watkins reports that Flozell Adams is expected to be back for training camp after undergoing minor surgery on his right knee.

I'd be mighty concerned about my left tackle's health if I were Tony Romo. Second-year seventh-rounder Pat McQuistan has worked with the first team in Adams' absence. Rookie Doug Free is another option. The Cowboys could move Leonard "Bigg" Davis to LT (where he played in Arizona), but that's not an attractive option unless Marco Rivera's back makes a miraculous recovery to allow him to play right guard.

The Cowboys' early schedule certainly wouldn't be friendly to a raw left tackle. Dallas will see a slew of premier pass-rushers in the opening month -- the Giants' Michael Strahan and Osi Umenyiora, the Dolphins' Jason Taylor and Joey Porter (if he isn't suspended for punching a Bengal in the mouth in a Vegas casino), the Bears' Alex Brown and Adewale Ogunleye and the Rams' Leonard Little.

We might see Romo rolling to his right a lot if Adams' bad knee isn't fully healed.
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Any idea on who Phillips is gonna give the ball to more? Barber or Jones?

Need help for my fantasy draft, thanks.
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Any idea on who Phillips is gonna give the ball to more? Barber or Jones?

Need help for my fantasy draft, thanks.
The only help I can give is to suggest you wait till late August or early September to hold your draft. Drafting now ruins the game. Too many things will happen between now and the start of the season.
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Oh, that's no problem. This is basically a warm-up for me. I'm in a ton of leagues. It's also for future reference, though.

Most of my drafts are September 1st.

But I already took Barber. Thanks anyway.
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That's a great article Modano...well-written, well thought out, and clearly and simply explained. The thing that confuses me a little is why Bill's schemes worked so well in the late '80s/early 90s and why they didn't work as well today. I guess teams must have gotten used to them; and I'm sure having only 1 rush backer hurts a bit too. Nevertheless, I find it tough to get super excited about a scheme when the previous scheme has been used with success.

For your fantasy draft, Gridiron, you were right in taking Barber. He should get the ball in the redzone again, and in situations where he has the ability to gain more yards and score more fantasy points. That's not saying that he will start, or that he is the better runner, but that's the way it is.
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I took Julius over Barber in my fantasy league last year...yeah super pissed at the end. I was screaming at Parcells to keep Julius in while in the red zone.
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Given Roy Williams inability to be a leader at the Safety position (hyper sensitive, out of position most fo the time, has not shown he makes good calls in terms of positioning) the following comments are really concerning .....

From ProFootball Weekly:

"We hear the communication skills of new Seahawks safeties Deon Grant and Brian Russell drew instantly rave reviews at the team's first minicamp, and that the team is already feeling a lot more comfortable at the safety position than a year ago at this time, when the since-departed Ken Hamlin and converted LB Michael Boulware were the primary safeties. "
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Given Roy Williams inability to be a leader at the Safety position (hyper sensitive, out of position most fo the time, has not shown he makes good calls in terms of positioning) the following comments are really concerning .....

From ProFootball Weekly:

"We hear the communication skills of new Seahawks safeties Deon Grant and Brian Russell drew instantly rave reviews at the team's first minicamp, and that the team is already feeling a lot more comfortable at the safety position than a year ago at this time, when the since-departed Ken Hamlin and converted LB Michael Boulware were the primary safeties. "
you are giving way to much credibility to this. What team isn't going to say good things after losing a key player? There is no way in the off season that they are going to say anything negative. Right now every team is a SB contender and every player is a superstar in the eyes of NFL personnel, see Watkins, Hurd, etc. from last year. Until they prove otherwise in the regular season that is just how it is. It is the same how Phillips and Jones aren't going to say anything negative about a Cowboys player's play at this point.

It could very well be true, but I wouldn't get your hopes too high that the Cowboys made another bad move.
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you are giving way to much credibility to this. What team isn't going to say good things after losing a key player? There is no way in the off season that they are going to say anything negative. Right now every team is a SB contender and every player is a superstar in the eyes of NFL personnel, see Watkins, Hurd, etc. from last year. Until they prove otherwise in the regular season that is just how it is. It is the same how Phillips and Jones aren't going to say anything negative about a Cowboys player's play at this point.

It could very well be true, but I wouldn't get your hopes too high that the Cowboys made another bad move.

How it turns out I dunno, but for a coaching staff to go out of its way to bash these guys all off season is cause for concern. I have not read ONE positive comment about Hamlin from Seattle.
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How it turns out I dunno, but for a coaching staff to go out of its way to bash these guys all off season is cause for concern. I have not read ONE positive comment about Hamlin from Seattle.
How about this? Hamlin was one of the key components that lead Seattle to the Super Bowl.
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How about this? Hamlin was one of the key components that lead Seattle to the Super Bowl.
Safety? Key component? I must have read that wrong...
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How about this? Hamlin was one of the key components that lead Seattle to the Super Bowl.
Wasn't he out at least half of the season?
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Ha, my personal friend has signed with us... TE, Adam Bergen signed this week... I've been slacking off when it's come to the cowboys...havent really been following OTAs that much but, i got an email today from my boy...and he's a cowboy...haha. Wouldnt shock me to see him take that 3rd TE spot.
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I was wondering... How many cowboys games did you all get to see last season? Last season... every cowboy game was televised here in my area(NJ)....that doesnt tend to happen... i loved it and I'm praying it happens again. So, how many games we're you all able to see in your areas? I know a lot of us are not in the Texas area.
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I was wondering... How many cowboys games did you all get to see last season? Last season... every cowboy game was televised here in my area(NJ)....that doesnt tend to happen... i loved it and I'm praying it happens again. So, how many games we're you all able to see in your areas? I know a lot of us are not in the Texas area.
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That's the only thin the Seahawks can say. They have given Grant a huge contract and he has never been a great player.

Btw, which are your thoughts on Dagunduro?
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Ha, my personal friend has signed with us... TE, Adam Bergen signed this week... I've been slacking off when it's come to the cowboys...havent really been following OTAs that much but, i got an email today from my boy...and he's a cowboy...haha. Wouldnt shock me to see him take that 3rd TE spot.
I like Bergen a lot and I'm surprised he didn't stick around with Arizona as a second TE.
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