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I'm totally behind this. I know I've talked about it in the past...but the redsox have a board where members have to apply like a job just to get in and be able to post. I honestly thought that it would be great to start one of them up. We would probably still have guys like kwhy and lsu and dmw posting had we been able to control who posts.
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Nope. Don't like it. We don't need a replacement for TO. We simply need an unselfish complimentary receiver. Boldin is not that guy. Roy is selfish enough... I wouldn't be surprised to see him being a cry baby if balls aren't thrown his way enough. I mean let's be real. He's always been that way.
I think Roy was more that way because of the frustrating situation in Detriot. No matter what he tried to do to rally the team by getting excited and making plays, it never worked because, plain and simple, Detroit sucks!

Now that Roy has a good QB and some time to work with him before the season, he will just perform! (at least that is my dier hope)
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I think Roy was more that way because of the frustrating situation in Detriot. No matter what he tried to do to rally the team by getting excited and making plays, it never worked because, plain and simple, Detroit sucks!

Now that Roy has a good QB and some time to work with him before the season, he will just perform! (at least that is my dier hope)
He also said Detroit worked harder and blocked down the field better. He said he was going to bring that work ethic to camp this year. Its time for Roy to step up, I'll be rooting for him.
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I was reading the post on DMN the was about Romo getting cut by Ross Tucker. At first I laughed....but then I started to think. What if Romo doesn't perform...what happens if we underperform again. Is it a problem of coaching?

That got me thinking...although the cap hit is something like 10million next year...I have a feeling if we flop and you blame it on Tony...he could actually be gone. Now obviously I don't see this happening...but I thought it'd be interesting to discuss.

Obviously if we flop again Wade is demoted or out...and Garrett isn't promoted...which means imo Shanny comes into town.

there are two prolific NFL QB's that would make sense imo. Jay Cutler....haha doubt it would work...but depending on if the relationship is mended this year....we have a QB to offer for compensation...so it could happen. And believe me I love me some Jay Cutler.

Second option that pops into my head is Carson Palmer. Now he also has a big cap hit...but another losing season and probably a new coaching staff could lead him to being able to be moved. Once again he has expressed interest in being the Dallas Cowboys QB...and would be an interesting option.

Just playing the hypothetical game here....if we flop in 2009 and don't make the playoffs...which is possible in this brutal division that only got better....would you want Romo as your QB? This of course is based on the assumption that Romo would have done bad enough down the stretch to warrant Jerry Jones to cut him.
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I find it HILARIOUS that Romo is now the guy getting thrown under the bus. I read those comments on DMN and I literally couldnt stop laughing. What is he like the 2nd or 3rd highest rated QB in the last three years? Tony is a great QB...he's an upgrade over most of the leagues QBs save about 5/6 teams perhaps. He's only been starting for 2 and a half years. Dallas fans are so insanely demanding and turn on their players way too quickly. I honestly dont think most cowboy fans watch other teams play unless it's against us or random playoff games. Because if they did, they would realize we have ourselves one damn good QB. Tony's not perfect but, he isnt the reason this team isnt winning super bowl after super bowl right now. ugh. His job is not in jeopardy at all and I could guarantee that.

edit...just a little something to add. Those fans on DMN are some of the stupidest posters ever. Nearly everything posted is moronic, it's such a displeasure reading them. They're idiots. /end mini rant on the DMN Blog. ugh.

edit number 2...The actual people working on the DMN blog arent too bright either. okay done. ha.
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I find it HILARIOUS that Romo is now the guy getting thrown under the bus. I read those comments on DMN and I literally couldnt stop laughing. What is he like the 2nd or 3rd highest rated QB in the last three years? Tony is a great QB...he's an upgrade over most of the leagues QBs save about 5/6 teams perhaps. He's only been starting for 2 and a half years. Dallas fans are so insanely demanding and turn on their players way too quickly. I honestly dont think most cowboy fans watch other teams play unless it's against us or random playoff games. Because if they did, they would realize we have ourselves one damn good QB. Tony's not perfect but, he isnt the reason this team isnt winning super bowl after super bowl right now. ugh. His job is not in jeopardy at all and I could guarantee that.

edit...just a little something to add. Those fans on DMN are some of the stupidest posters ever. Nearly everything posted is moronic, it's such a displeasure reading them. They're idiots. /end mini rant on the DMN Blog. ugh.

edit number 2...The actual people working on the DMN blog arent too bright either. okay done. ha.
Ya dmn posters are terrible...it's almost as if people are faking it.

IDK maybe I'm still just struck by Tony's post Philly game talk....but we all remember the beginning of the year when you were talking about Tony being depressed....if he comes out and has that same mantality next year...I wouldn't be surprised to see Jerry bring out the axe....not that it would be justified...but it could end up being a lot like the TO situation....obviously not the conflict..but if a lack of interest in the game and another flop could lead to cut concerns.
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DMN has a bunch of kid posters posting comments, 13 and 14 year old kids who just want to ***** and moan, I'm certain of it now...Just look back at the old post and you see the same crap even when it's a good move, gets old.


Anyways, I think we need another decent QB option if Tony flops, now if we draft a guy in the mid rounds that we like, it's a thought, but I don't see him going anywhere if we don't have any better options...The heat will most certainly be on with a flop this year.
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Ya dmn posters are terrible...it's almost as if people are faking it.

IDK maybe I'm still just struck by Tony's post Philly game talk....but we all remember the beginning of the year when you were talking about Tony being depressed....if he comes out and has that same mantality next year...I wouldn't be surprised to see Jerry bring out the axe....not that it would be justified...but it could end up being a lot like the TO situation....obviously not the conflict..but if a lack of interest in the game and another flop could lead to cut concerns.
Tony was certainly depressed at a point but, he came back refreshed after the injury. I honestly do believe that no T.O. means less stress there...obviously, there will still be stress because, now there are no more excuses (unless you count Garrett)...blah, blah, blah but, I think the move is greatly going to benefit him. Also, Tony wont be asked to do as much because, all signs point to us commiting more to the running game. He should be fine...the guy has all the talent in the world. I'm not worried.

Also just throwing this out there...I'm ready for an open competition for that #2 receiver spot...Patty, Miles, and Sam top performer in training camp/preseason should get it.
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Also just throwing this out there...I'm ready for an open competition for that #2 receiver spot...Patty, Miles, and Sam top performer in training camp/preseason should get it.
Yea I've been kinda forgetting about Hurd lately I can't lie, but depending on how healthy he is at this point, wouldn't surprise me to see him pass Crayton at some point during the year...Hurd can run routes and catch just as good as Crayton and he's much more explosive, though I think Miles is better suited to be the #2 guy on the outside I'd welcome an open competition, I think it brings the best out of the entire WR core and barring an injury I think we'll be ok at WR.


Still want to bring in a KR/PR specialist, and I value that position pretty high since were probably still looking for that guy, someone who can play out of the slot also because you never know who is going to stay healthy, both Miles and Hurd still need to prove they can get through a full season.
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Yea I've been kinda forgetting about Hurd lately I can't lie, but depending on how healthy he is at this point, wouldn't surprise me to see him pass Crayton at some point during the year...Hurd can run routes and catch just as good as Crayton and he's much more explosive, though I think Miles is better suited to be the #2 guy on the outside I'd welcome an open competition, I think it brings the best out of the entire WR core and barring an injury I think we'll be ok at WR.


Still want to bring in a KR/PR specialist, and I value that position pretty high since were probably still looking for that guy, someone who can play out of the slot also because you never know who is going to stay healthy, both Miles and Hurd still need to prove they can get through a full season.
Out of sight, out of mind...everyone is forgetting about Hurd. In training camp and preseason last year we saw him on the outside with Crayton in the slot a lot...and there was never an actual clear cut winner in the Austin vs Hurd competition. They both got hurt. Austin certainly has the upper hand now but, I dont think anyone can sleep on Hurd.

I agree that we could use a speed guy/return guy but, if we opt against adding a receiver...I'm still okay with it.
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D I wanted to comment on your 53 man...but figured I'll keep it in here.

Phillips at TE idk about that...I really think the team is high on Hannah....although it was only a 7th round pick I don't see us touching TE or RB in this draft.
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Phillips at TE idk about that...I really think the team is high on Hannah....although it was only a 7th round pick I don't see us touching TE or RB in this draft.
Those 7th rounders can really go a million different directions. I just went with a gut feeling on the whole thing.
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Ya wasn't doing anything outside of nitpicking really...just thought it was something to note...as I think Hannah makes the 53 man roster this year.
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I wouldn't, I'm ready to go all or nothing with the young guys we have for at least one season, Stanback included...He hasn't been mentioned much but he should be the WR who is our slot, return man but he hasn't panned out, I just want to see some competition and see who emerges, sucks we won't see another Hard Knocks :)
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You know, I would like to see Stainback get some serious reps, too.

The guy has some serious tools. With his speed, he, RW & Austin should be a pretty formidable trio.
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Yall know, yall are really depending on receivers who have done and showed absolutely nothing. The way yall talk about stanback, hurd, and austin would have me thinking they were already special players.
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Yall know, yall are really depending on receivers who have done and showed absolutely nothing. The way yall talk about stanback, hurd, and austin would have me thinking they were already special players.
Way to overreact. Someone just asked if Tory Holt should be a consideration... guys are mock drafting us taking WRs... Why would you even think that?

Oh well, fact of the matter is that these guys have been sitting on the bench for a long time and haven't had a chance to show the fans what they can do. I'm sure the coaching staff has a better idea of their abilities, but we as fans are ready to see what the coaching staff sees. There must be a reason why they were picked up and are still on the team... we just want to see it.
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Stanback really blowing is of no surprise to me. Over the past few years, this FO has shown absolutely no consistency whatsoever in drafting in the mid-rounds. Chalk Stanback up as another wasted pick. There's really no way the guy gets a chance to do anything but return kicks, and on top of that, he can't stay healthy to save his life. I'm putting absolutely no hope in that basket.
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Honestly I know football at the end of the day is just a game and whatever but dammit I was so disappointed during the season. When we lost against the Redskins I was so blue, after our horrible showdown against the Rams I couldn't even watch NFL network... I stopped reading the DMN blog after our loss against the Cardinals.. I didn't even watch the Bucs game because I knew I couldn't handle another loss! And I watched just 2 or 3 playoff games because I was tired of football!
When the season started I had so many high expectations!
So my philosophy for this upcoming season is "no expectations". I don't care if we don't have TO, I don't care if Austin, Hurd or Stanback are gonna step up. I'm not gonna be worried about anything. To me it's the only way to bring some fun back to football...
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Stanback really blowing is of no surprise to me. Over the past few years, this FO has shown absolutely no consistency whatsoever in drafting in the mid-rounds. Chalk Stanback up as another wasted pick. There's really no way the guy gets a chance to do anything but return kicks, and on top of that, he can't stay healthy to save his life. I'm putting absolutely no hope in that basket.
Well, I dunno that any team can show consistency making successful picks in the mid-late rounds. It's hit or miss even in the 1st round. Look at Bobby Carpenter and Anthony Spencer. Scrubs. I think if you can find 1 keeper from rounds 4-7, then that draft is good. 2 is great, 3 is friggen awesome and amazing!

So yeah, I think you're kind of overreacting a bit. I understand the frustration though. That '07 draft turned out to be crap... Even I was hopeful following that draft... I think I posted some nice things... turns out it was a complete failure. '08 was a redemption year of sorts... turning out to be one of the very best we've had. Hopefully, this year is another like that.
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Yall know, yall are really depending on receivers who have done and showed absolutely nothing. The way yall talk about stanback, hurd, and austin would have me thinking they were already special players.
Consider though that Roy is a straight swap for T.O(hopefully)
Crayton was playing opposite T.O when we had our best offensive season in history...

And Austin, Hurd and Stanback are battling out for the #3 WR spot which is actually #4 in terms of recieving targets because of Jason Witten. It's definately not a position we absolutely MUST draft a player this year.

Oh and as for the 2007 draft. It's not totally awful. The fact that all but one of the players taken are still apart of the roster for depth purposes makes it better then a complete and utter failure.
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