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Old 12-10-2006, 11:55 PM    (permalink
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you know what i think it was, I think its what happened to sexy rexy. Romo came in as an unknown (this year) but now after a couple games people have tape on him. And know his tendencies. Itll be much harder for him from now on most likely. Not positive, might just be an off day but i think its that the opposition has tape on Romo. Good evening
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you know what i think it was, I think its what happened to sexy rexy. Romo came in as an unknown (this year) but now after a couple games people have tape on him. And know his tendencies. Itll be much harder for him from now on most likely. Not positive, might just be an off day but i think its that the opposition has tape on Romo. Good evening
I agree, and having your former Offensive Coordinator on the other side didn't help either. Sean did a great job.
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Well...no excuses we got killed. The only person who had a good game was Newman they kept away from where he was and he showed his tackling skills. Roy Wlliams and Davis got PWNED. But, I think we are asking to much of Roy to play center field.

We need a LB that can man up a TE or RB. This is why I wanted them to sign Julian Peterson, I think he would of been a big differnence to what we are now. Something else that bugs me how the hell do we get beat by a blocking FB for 3TDs.

Last but certainly not least...fire Zimmer and get an actual 3-4 DC!
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I felt like we would lose this game, but a blowout is embarassing.
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What the hell happened? Was it overlooking them or what?
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Well...no excuses we got killed. The only person who had a good game was Newman they kept away from where he was and he showed his tackling skills. Roy Wlliams and Davis got PWNED. But, I think we are asking to much of Roy to play center field.

We need a LB that can man up a TE or RB. This is why I wanted them to sign Julian Peterson, I think he would of been a big differnence to what we are now. Something else that bugs me how the hell do we get beat by a blocking FB for 3TDs.

Last but certainly not least...fire Zimmer and get an actual 3-4 DC!
NO MORE LB!! sorry, as I said before we invested to much money and to many picks on linebackers.
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Can anyone tell me why after the 77 yard run we ran about 5 more times got atleast 6 yards then pass...pass..and pass some more until we have to pass to win?

Don't know about you all but in all the games I seen him coach the Giants, Jets, and Patriots I never remember seeing him abandoning the run like that before.
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Well...no excuses we got killed. The only person who had a good game was Newman they kept away from where he was and he showed his tackling skills. Roy Wlliams and Davis got PWNED. But, I think we are asking to much of Roy to play center field.

We need a LB that can man up a TE or RB. This is why I wanted them to sign Julian Peterson, I think he would of been a big differnence to what we are now. Something else that bugs me how the hell do we get beat by a blocking FB for 3TDs.

Last but certainly not least...fire Zimmer and get an actual 3-4 DC!
NO MORE LB!! sorry, as I said before we invested to much money and to many picks on linebackers.
Well, maybe I worded it wrong. Can be a FS too. I just don't feel like Bill can trust Roy to man up on someone like Bush to have an effective pass rush.
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Can anyone tell me why after the 77 yard run we ran about 5 more times got atleast 6 yards then pass...pass..and pass some more until we have to pass to win?

Don't know about you all but in all the games I seen him coach the Giants, Jets, and Patriots I never remember seeing him abandoning the run like that before.
God-awful coaching. All across the board.
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Can anyone tell me why after the 77 yard run we ran about 5 more times got atleast 6 yards then pass...pass..and pass some more until we have to pass to win?

Don't know about you all but in all the games I seen him coach the Giants, Jets, and Patriots I never remember seeing him abandoning the run like that before.
We don't have the dominate OL that he has had in the past. Instead our WR are our strength. So we use the pass to set up the run. I'm sure parcells wishes we could rush 40 times a game but we just don't have the blocking.
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Well...no excuses we got killed. The only person who had a good game was Newman they kept away from where he was and he showed his tackling skills. Roy Wlliams and Davis got PWNED. But, I think we are asking to much of Roy to play center field.

We need a LB that can man up a TE or RB. This is why I wanted them to sign Julian Peterson, I think he would of been a big differnence to what we are now. Something else that bugs me how the hell do we get beat by a blocking FB for 3TDs.

Last but certainly not least...fire Zimmer and get an actual 3-4 DC!
NO MORE LB!! sorry, as I said before we invested to much money and to many picks on linebackers.
Well, maybe I worded it wrong. Can be a FS too. I just don't feel like Bill can trust Roy to man up on someone like Bush to have an effective pass rush.
I agree with Paul. There isn't much speed back there. It was very apparent on the screens. And how many more games do we have to endure before we get some kind of freakin' pressure. Frustrating.
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I was at the game and all I can say is WOW, that was unbelievable and unexpected. That was without a doubt the worst loss and feeling I've experienced live at the stadium. I'm not really surprised that we lost but surprised with the way in which we lost. I hate to say it but I think we quit at some point probably late in the 3rd or early in the 4th. I'm not going to even attempt to comment on the game as I know I will probably overreact and be irrational, maybe I'll comment on it tomorrow.
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at least it happened now and not in the playoffs. hopefully this grounded us and allows us to evaluate all of the weaknesses we have. id rather go in playing like underdogs and fighting, than having a cocky attitude.


first off, parcells got outcoached by another one of his pupils; probably because they arent as stubborn as him, they take all the good he has to offer but they also modernize. How many times are we going to try and run Julius up the gut instead of off tackle until we figure out that he cant run between the gaurds. ours gaurds blow anyways. the 77 yarder was nice, but for the most part he has been shut down up the middle for the past 5 games. I thought the whole reasoning of the 2 back system was to have barber to pound and julius to stretch? maybe im ********.

our safeties cant cover for **** and its almost becoming sickening because the only time ive heard roys name called over the past 3 games is for getting beat deep. no bit hits, no forced fumbles, no sacks, were hardly putting him in the box for christ sakes. davis blows. watkins blows.

Romo looked like ****, but i think he'll get over it. He definately isnt another rex grossman although bears fans would love to believe it. I dont ever see romo with a passer rating of 1.3 or having 18 turnovers in 7 games.

TO -- alligator arms on one occasion and the drop over his shoulder was pathetic. he better get this dropped ball **** off his consious quick.

D-ware, nice for about the first quarter in a half and then his motor wore out. he had no pass rush to go along with the rest of a pathetic rush from the line.

They dinked and dunked us all over the field and got most of their yards after the catch. linebackers played like **** as a whole.

carpenter still looks like a loser.



most of all, the chips didnt fall our way tonight. No turnovers, no momentum, the parcells 15 yard penalty. it just wasnt our night.


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We can complain about our lack of pressure. But I has to come down to Zimmer. Think about this....Roy and Davis are playing deep cover 2 somewhere near 80% of the plays. We blitz occasionally but it doesn't seem like we blitz as much as some of the other 3-4 teams. With our corners playing close man to man and the ability to match up with alot of the top WR's combo's in the league. Personally I'd like to see us work some more robber coverages with our safeties to allow roy not to have to play deep. To me this screams d-cordinator.
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We're in a must win situation once again. If we win the next two games we'll have the #3 seed in the NFC. Hope that Romo puts that game behind his shoulder..
This year we've showed the ability to win when it really matters, to come from behind and to go forward when we had our backs against the wall.. Now it's time to do that once again. Our playoffs begin next saturday..

This f***** blocked FG against the Redskins is haunting us...
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Just curious, but how is Akin Ayodele working out for you guys? He was a perennial underachiever in Jacksonville, but he was a monster against the run when he wanted to be.
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What a shame. Just when the Cowboys were being discussed as the best team in the NFC. This is the first time i came onto this thread and i noticed a pattern. After a loss everybody on this thread blaims coaching and the coordinators. We do that on the Giants thread also. I give credit to the Saints, they completely outplayed and outcoached you guys. Some of the plays Sean Payton pulled off were amazing. I especially liked the double fake to McCallister, then Bush, and the long throw down field to Henderson. The giants are playing the Saints in two weeks, i'm a little worried.
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He's having a great year.. Obviously he doesn't play the nickle defense, but he's making some plays against the run..
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I'd like to thank Bill Parcells for not rushing Marion Barber much and thus preserving my chances to make my fantasy playoffs if a few things go right tonight.
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Tuna's excuse for throwing the red flag was horrendous. "Uh, my coach upstairs said I should throw it". That penalty couldn't have come at a worse time. Instead of the review team just simply overturning the call of a complete pass, and it being 3rd and 20 on the Cowboys 43. It was 1st and 10 Saints at the Cowboys 28. And the score at the time was 14-7 Saints.
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Tuna's excuse for throwing the red flag was horrendous. "Uh, my coach upstairs said I should throw it". That penalty couldn't have come at a worse time. Instead of the review team just simply overturning the call of a complete pass, and it being 3rd and 20 on the Cowboys 43. It was 1st and 10 Saints at the Cowboys 28. And the score at the time was 14-7 Saints.
As dumb as it sounds, the right move there would have been to call a time out before the Saints could snap the ball. That way the booth upstairs would have had more time to look at it and decide if it should be challenged. Andy Reid does that from time to time.
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I think you guys are overreacting. It was one loss, a bad one at that, but still...one loss. The team didn't show up to play, its as simple as that. You can see a lack of emotion out of the Cowboys for that game, they totally underestimated the Saints.

You can blame coaching for some of the woes, but honestly, this game was all about execution.

You couldn't stop the run, you couldn't rush the passer. Thats it. Thats what it came down to. You passed alot because you were down so much. The offensive gameplan was an aftershock of the horrible defensive play.

Dallas is a great run stuffing team, but they did not get the job done against the run against the Saints. And the Saints spread them out with 5 WR often. When you get spread out like that, you should get pressure with a 4/5 man rush, and Dallas tried it. But they didn't get pressure. The bottomline is your linemen and Ware weren't winning their individual assignments and not creating pressure on Brees. Even when you guys did blitz, it didn't do a thing. No one got pressure, whether you sent 7 or 4, it made no difference. Roy had to be in coverage, what else is he supposed to do when you have a suspect FS and a 5 WR set? Did he get his ass busted? Yes he did. Roy is not a good pass coverage safety. And it seems like the only tackle he knows how to do is a horsecollar. And Payton took advantage of that. He picked on your safeties all game.

But to neutralize that weakness, you gotta generate a pass rush. And quite simply, the pass rush was mediocre at best the entire game outside of the first drive. To me, this game came down to the pass rush and run defense, and Dallas simply didn't do a good job in either.

And let's give NO credit. Theyre one heck of a team. I know their defense is suspect, but they are a very good team. Theres no luck involved in this "cinerella story". They are the real deal.
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Ok, lets not overreact.

The bottom line is that NO is a better team than anyone was giving them credit for.

Their offense is sick. Their defense can't really stop the run but if you get up early you don't have to worry about that from a defense.

Romo has come back down to earth. That's not all bad. I'd rather he come back down to earth now than later. He does now need to play within the system more. He seems to be throwing off his back foot too much.

DWare played a very good game, but toward the end of the game he started to lose contain. It's official, DWare is good, Merriman is a better player. No more comments on this until proven otherwise, Merriman is the better player.

Terry Glenn is a stud still. Witten is starting to make me think he's overrated.

The penalty on Parcells was terrible. He should of just called a time out but the brain fart really sucked.

Overall, Roy Williams and Keith Davis played Terrible. KD needs to be benched, he's absolutely terrible.
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Ok, lets not overreact.

The bottom line is that NO is a better team than anyone was giving them credit for.

Their offense is sick. Their defense can't really stop the run but if you get up early you don't have to worry about that from a defense.

Romo has come back down to earth. That's not all bad. I'd rather he come back down to earth now than later. He does now need to play within the system more. He seems to be throwing off his back foot too much.

DWare played a very good game, but toward the end of the game he started to lose contain. It's official, DWare is good, Merriman is a better player. No more comments on this until proven otherwise, Merriman is the better player.

Terry Glenn is a stud still. Witten is starting to make me think he's overrated.

The penalty on Parcells was terrible. He should of just called a time out but the brain fart really sucked.

Overall, Roy Williams and Keith Davis played Terrible. KD needs to be benched, he's absolutely terrible.
Youre gonna anger alot of people with that statement my friend. I agree with you, but most on this board are gonna call for your head.

I wouldn't call Witten overrated. I actually like him alot. He thrives on a balanced attack. Witten is a great blocker and WR. He's at his best when you guys could do both, that allows him to catch LBs off guard and run out in patterns and catch balls.

When youre in must pass situations, his play decreases because he doesn't have elite speed to simply break an LB, but he's still damn good. Great hands, great route running, thick body, I like Witten alot.
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Ok, lets not overreact.

The bottom line is that NO is a better team than anyone was giving them credit for.

Their offense is sick. Their defense can't really stop the run but if you get up early you don't have to worry about that from a defense.

Romo has come back down to earth. That's not all bad. I'd rather he come back down to earth now than later. He does now need to play within the system more. He seems to be throwing off his back foot too much.

DWare played a very good game, but toward the end of the game he started to lose contain. It's official, DWare is good, Merriman is a better player. No more comments on this until proven otherwise, Merriman is the better player.

Terry Glenn is a stud still. Witten is starting to make me think he's overrated.

The penalty on Parcells was terrible. He should of just called a time out but the brain fart really sucked.

Overall, Roy Williams and Keith Davis played Terrible. KD needs to be benched, he's absolutely terrible.
Youre gonna anger alot of people with that statement my friend. I agree with you, but most on this board are gonna call for your head.
I agree completely, right now Merriman is the better player. But Dware isn't terrible or a bust, Ware is still gonna make alot of probowls and get alot of sacks, so I'm happy with the pick overall. It's not his fault he's not a freak of nature like Merriman.
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