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OUCH. That is some brutal truth right there.
Was Jay's contract about to get finished? Why extend him now? If his contract doesn't expire I'd want to see if he can get another good season before extending him. It will show he can put up numbers in another system.
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Whether or not you want to argue if Ratliff should be playing DE or NT is a completely different story, but to call him "out of position" is simply ridiculous. Or did you miss the fact that he made the All-Pro team playing NT? I'd prefer to kick him over too, but let's not overreact to small deals like this. We are sitting with 18 million in cap room, who did you guys want to save the money for?


It needed to be done, plus we need to focus on contracts not being what they used to. Peyton Manning can be released next season without any cap penalities or locked up money, and he was just signed to 100 million dollars. You mean to tell me if Ratliff falls off that we just can't part ways like we have been for all other declining players.


The contract isn't making things any different, he was underpaid for years anyway. At least he is playing at a pro bowl level right now, Scandrick was terrible for large portions and never as big of a play-maker that Rat has always been.
You're right...that was hyperbole..."Out of position" is a bad term for Ratliff. He's proven he can play at a high level at NT. His age and the physicality of the position scare me though. I don't want him to continue to be a liability like he was last year. We're outside looking in, and I'm sure Rob Ryan had some say on whether or not he thought it wise to extend Ratliff and Scandrick. Let's see what he can do with the D after a year and a defense oriented draft.
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Was Jay's contract about to get finished? Why extend him now? If his contract doesn't expire I'd want to see if he can get another good season before extending him. It will show he can put up numbers in another system.
Nah, the reason for the new deal is because Jerry opened up his mouth in public about how he thought Jay probably wishes he could have a better contract. Jay's agent heard that and cashed in. Jerry played the fool... once again.
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Nah, the reason for the new deal is because Jerry opened up his mouth in public about how he thought Jay probably wishes he could have a better contract. Jay's agent heard that and cashed in. Jerry played the fool... once again.
LOL you really believe that? Come on D, Jay has been in Jerrys ear for no telling how long about out playing his contract. Jerry planned on doing this or NO WAY does he mention it in public.

I'm with LL, the guy has been great for us, keep him happy and if it doesnt work out in a few years you cut him. This has no bearing on what we do in the future. We can, and always have, cleared space if we want to go get somebody.
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Nah, the reason for the new deal is because Jerry opened up his mouth in public about how he thought Jay probably wishes he could have a better contract. Jay's agent heard that and cashed in. Jerry played the fool... once again.
Yea this is a pretty naive way to look at things. Jerry's not a billionaire by shooting himself in the foot and speaking out of turn repeatedly. Even if some of his moves are questionable, i'm pretty sure they're well thought out before hand. He was definitely planning to extend Rat....he just made it apparent before the deal got done.

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Nah, the reason for the new deal is because Jerry opened up his mouth in public about how he thought Jay probably wishes he could have a better contract. Jay's agent heard that and cashed in. Jerry played the fool... once again.
Dude..... Are you serious? What's wrong with you?

Anyway, excited and nervous for tonight.. If were in it by the 2nd quarter i think we'll be ok.
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NEWARK, N.J. -- The Dallas Cowboys on Sunday made sure tight end Jason Witten would be a Cowboy for life with a five-year extension. A source familiar with the deal told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter the deal is worth $37 million and includes $19 million guaranteed.

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Guessing re-signing Witten will bring on more doom and gloom. Hell why are we resigning our top players? :| [/sarcasm]

All kidding aside this was a good deal for both sides. Witten retires with a star on his helmet and the Cowboys keep the best all-round TE in the game.

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Now all thats really left to lock up long term is jenkins and spencer, if they have good seasons of course. I like the future of our team.

A big key to the future is Bruce Carter. I cant wait for him to come off PUP.
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Bruce Carter is going to surprise...I'm going to hammer that into all of your heads over and over and over again. 10 year starter in the NFL....3 time probowler type player.

If he fails, i'll never mention this post again though...lol
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mmmmmm Witten. :D

Him retiring as a Cowboy was a given. Good for him, future Hall of Famer.
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Crazy. This owner is crazy. Al Davis moves. All of them.
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Resigning Witten is a Al Davis move? These aren't expensive contracts man...Even the Scandrick one is pretty cheap, especially if he lives up to it. The only questionable one is Rat, and that's if he's continually used at NT for 3-4 years.
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Resigning Witten is a Al Davis move? These aren't expensive contracts man...Even the Scandrick one is pretty cheap, especially if he lives up to it. The only questionable one is Rat, and that's if he's continually used at NT for 3-4 years.
Dont mind him, NOTHING Jerry does is smart, and hes never happy unless hes complaining lol
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We're getting close, guys. :)

Been a long day, but I good fantasy day at least. I cant wait for this game.
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Sean Lee named started over Brooking. He'll start tonight.

Inactives:

Mcgee, Tanner, Robinson, Newman, Arkin, Bennett, Geathers.

Smith/Jenkins both active.
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Hatcher is starter over Coleman.
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Dude..... Are you serious? What's wrong with you?

Anyway, excited and nervous for tonight.. If were in it by the 2nd quarter i think we'll be ok.
I call it like I see it.

Witten's extension was a good move.
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Interesting, I didnt hear that until now. Not complaining, though. They've both played well. Hatcher has looked strong rushing the passer this preseason. Kind of weird to have him on the same side as Ware, though.
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Ready to bust the Jets upper lip.

Just hope our OL isn't as bad as the Giants. Damn they suck.

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Not feeling any pressure at all for this game, hope the players feel the same. They predicted the SB, they are the favorites, at home, with our young inexperienced line. Everything says we should lose anyway so why not go out and just play loose.
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Not feeling any pressure at all for this game, hope the players feel the same. They predicted the SB, they are the favorites, at home, with our young inexperienced line. Everything says we should lose anyway so why not go out and just play loose.
lol. I enjoy going into a season with low or indifferent expectations. You cant really be disappointed that way. And we have so many question marks right now, that I've been keeping the expectations low. I also like when we have an underdog team in general.
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RichCimini: Cowboys win toss, will receive. Dallas players didn't even stick around for the pre-game handshake, bolted to sideline. #Jets
I hope this is done by Garrett....I kind've hope he instills a sense of anger into this team.

"Shake their hands after you beat them".
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Nagy got bitched twice and Choice missed a block that almost got Romo killed...but hey, great freaking start. haha.
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Buehler's gonna lose his job if he doesn't kick it into the endzone.
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