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Old 10-27-2013, 10:02 PM    (permalink
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Survivor Series match, ???, D-Bry wins the Rumble?
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They really need to do something fresh with Bryan in the interim if theyre going to have him win the Rumble and take the belt at Mania. If all he does is continue to hang around the World Title as he gets screwed over and over again and fails to win it, then he's going to lose even more momentum than these last few months have taken from him already.
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Cena and Orton back as champs. Woo.
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Cena and Orton back as champs. Woo.
Setting up the inevitable Corporate push for a Unification title.

I can see the scenario in my head already; HHH offers Cena a chance to reclaim the WWE title now that Orton is the actual title-holder, re-igniting a 'classic' rivalry(out-loud rationale) and shoving Bryan outside of title contention(secret motivation). Only Cena naturally rejects this proposal and gets drawn in as an enemy of the Regime, y'know, because he's mindlessly written as an incorruptible hero.

And to be quite honest, I would probably write it the same way. Though there is one other option; Cena accepts the Unification Match for Survivor Series, only he screws the regime just before the PPV by deliberately fighting Bryan for the WHC belt on the last Raw show, and losing. This allows Bryan to stay in this feud, allows said feud to remain despite Bryan most likely getting a genuine victory here, and removes the probable distraction of John Cena from the storyline as far as a genuine title contender is concerned (the underlying acknowledgment from Cena being he's walking away from all future championships by screwing the regime in this manner).

Yeah, yeah, I'm a dead ringer for Vince Russo....

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Old 10-28-2013, 08:26 AM    (permalink
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:44 AM    (permalink
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Setting up the inevitable Corporate push for a Unification title.

I can see the scenario in my head already; HHH offers Cena a chance to reclaim the WWE title now that Orton is the actual title-holder, re-igniting a 'classic' rivalry(out-loud rationale) and shoving Bryan outside of title contention(secret motivation). Only Cena naturally rejects this proposal and gets drawn in as an enemy of the Regime, y'know, because he's mindlessly written as an incorruptible hero.


If it were me booking.....

Cena would confront Trips and Orton only to be told that him winning the WHC was "best for business" too. And then we'll get the opposing viewpoints of Cena selling merch to all of the kids and the constant 'Cena sucks' chants.


And then Cena starts winning matches due to outside interference (probably from the Shield), even though being SuperCena, he really doesn't need it.


Leading to an eventual terrible match at Royal Rumble between Cena and Trips. Even better Trips could start the match by invoking the "finger poke of doom" only to have Cena spend the next 15 minutes repeating the six moves of doom instead of simply pinning him at the start. It'd be an interesting reversal because Cena could do heelish things (while still being the face) like pin Trips but break the pin at 2 (like heels used to do) so he could beat his opponent more.
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Rise above this! Damien Sandow rules!
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Rise above this! Damien Sandow rules!
Too bad he's about to have his MITB wasted.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:18 PM    (permalink
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Too bad he's about to have his MITB wasted.
Well, sure it's Super Cena.
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Never doubt the status quo

Poor sandow lol
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Yes, please breakup the Shield already.
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What??????????? The Shield is awesome.
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As a group they're stale and pretty much without purpose. They can all hold their own individually at this point.
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And just like that Daniel Bryan is a mid-carder again feuding with The Wyatt Family. Long live Orton and Cena...

Why am I still watching this?
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You have a problem with Beard on Beard violence?
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No one cares about The Wyatt Family. You can almost see the crowd fall asleep when they come out.
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so Kane vs Big Show feud starting now?
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Oh it's true. It's damn true.
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so again I say Team HHH vs Team Big Show at Survivor Series seems inevitable
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HHH/Kane/Shield vs Big Show/Usos/Rhodes

Wyatts/?/? vs Punk/Bryan/Miz/Kofi/R-Truth
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And just like that Daniel Bryan is a mid-carder again feuding with The Wyatt Family. Long live Orton and Cena.
Bryan getting screwed over by WWE front office is now looking like a shoot.

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so Kane vs Big Show feud starting now?
Why not? They were overdue for match number 340,288 against each other.

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The question marks would probably be Ryback and Curtis Axel (because of the C.M. Punk connection). But I still don't get how Paul Heyman can't exist if (and now after) Punk beats him up.

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So it appears the breakup of The Shield storyline had been put into play.
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So just for the heck of it I've gone and put down a list of John Cena's PPV record since his debut;


2002: (1-1, 1-0 Singles)
Vengeance- July 21
-Singles Match, versus Chris Jericho (victory)
Rebellion- October 26
-Mixed Tag-Team Match with Dawn Marie, versus Billy Kidman and Torrie Wilson (loss)

2003: (2-3, 0-3 Singles, 0-1 Title Matches)
Royal Rumble- January 19
-Participant, 19th in order. No eliminations. Eliminated by Undertaker, 22nd out. Lasted 19:38.
Backlash- April 27
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(challenger) versus Brock Lesnar (loss)
Judgment Day- May 18
-Six-man Tag Team Match with FBI(Chuck Palumbo and Johnny Stamboli with Nunzio), versus Rhyno, Spanky, and Chris Benoit(victory)
Vengeance- July 27
-Singles Match, versus Undertaker (loss)
No Mercy- October 19
-Singles Match, versus Kurt Angle (loss)
Survivor Series- November 16
-Part of Team Angle, with Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, Hardcore Holly, and Bradshaw(JBL), versus Team Lesnar(Brock Lesnar, Big Show, Matt Morgan, Nathan Jones, and A-Train) (victory)

2004: (7-1, 5-0 Singles, 6-0 Title Matches)
Royal Rumble- January 25
-Participant, 28th in order. No eliminations. Eliminated by Big Show, 24th out. Lasted 7:37.
No Way Out- Februrary 15
-Triple-Threat Match for #1 contender to WWE Title, versus Kurt Angle and the Big Show. (Loss)
Wrestlemania XX- March 14
-Singles Match for the US Championship(Challenger), versus the Big Show (victory)
Judgment Day- May 16
-Singles Match for the US Championship(Champion), versus Rene Dupree (victory)
Great American Bash- June 27
-Four-way Match for the US Championship(Champion), versus Rene Dupree, Booker T, and Rob Van Dam (victory)
SummerSlam- August 15
-Best-of-Five Singles Series(first match) for the US Championship(Champion), versus Booker T (victory)
No Mercy- October 3
-Best-of-Five Singles Series(last match) for the US Championship(Challenger), versus Booker T (victory)
Survivor Series- November 14
-Part of Team Guerrero(Eddie Guerrero, Big Show, and Rob Van Dam), versus Team Angle(Kurt Angle, Carlito, Luther Reigns, and Mike Jindrak) (victory)
Armageddon- December 12
-Singles Match and Street Fight for the US Championship(Champion), versus Jesus(With Carlito) (victory)

2005: (7-1, 5-1 Singles, 6-1 Title Matches)
Royal Rumble- January 30
-Participant, 25th in order. 2 Eliminations(Viscera and Kane). Eliminated by Batista, 28th out. Lasted 15:28.
No Way Out- February 20
-Singles Match for #1 Contender for WWE Championship, versus Kurt Angle (victory)
Wrestlemania 21- April 3
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus JBL (victory)
Judgment Day- May 22
-"I Quit" Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus JBL (victory)
Vengeance- June 26
-Triple-Threat Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Christian and Chris Jericho (victory)
SummerSlam- August 21
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Chris Jericho (victory)
Unforgiven- September 18
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Kurt Angle (loss via disqualification)
Taboo Tuesday- November 1
-Triple-Threat Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Kurt Angle and Shawn Michaels (victory)
Survivor Series- November 27
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Kurt Angle (victory)

2006: (8-4, 4-3 Singles, 5-4 Title Matches)
New Year's Revolution- January 8
-Elimination Chamber Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Carlito, Chris Masters, Shawn Michaels, Kane, and Kurt Angle (victory)
-Cash-in Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Edge (loss)
Royal Rumble- January 29
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Edge (victory)
Wrestlemania 22- April 2
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Triple H (victory)
Backlash- April 30
-Triple-Threat Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Triple H and Edge (victory)
ECW One Night Stand- June 11
-Extreme Rules Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Rob Van Dam (loss)
Vengeance- June 25
-Extreme Lumberjack Match, versus Sabu (victory)
SummerSlam- August 20
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Edge (loss)
Unforgiven- September 17
-TLC Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Edge (win)
Cyber Sunday- November 5
-Triple-Threat Match for the World Heavyweight Championship(challenger and WWE Champion), versus King Booker and the Big Show (loss)
Survivor Series- November 26
-Leading Team Cena (Kane, Bobby Lashley, Sabu, and Rob Van Dam) versus Team Big Show(Big Show, Test, MVP, Finlay, and Umaga) (victory)
Armageddon- December 17
-Tag-Team Match with Batista, versus King Booker and Finlay (victory)

2007: (10-1, 7-1 Singles, 9-1 Title Matches)
New Year's Revolution- January 7
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Umaga (victory)
Royal Rumble- January 28
-Last Man Standing Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Umaga (victory)
No Way Out- February 18
-Tag-Team Match with Shawn Michaels, versus Undertaker and Batista (victory)
Wrestlemania 23- April 1
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Shawn Michaels (victory)
Backlash- April 29
-Four-Way Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Edge, Randy Orton, and Shawn Michaels (victory)
Judgment Day- May 20
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus the Great Khali (victory)
One Night Stand- June 3
-Falls Count Anywhere Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus the Great Khali (victory)
Vengeance: Night of Champions- June 24
-Five-Pack Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Mick Foley, Bobby Lashley, Randy Orton, and King Booker (victory)
Great American Bash- July 22
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Bobby Lashley (victory)
SummerSlam- August 26
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Randy Orton (victory)
Unforgiven- September 16
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Randy Orton (loss via disqualification)
Legit Injury Suffered- Out the rest of the year.

2008: (5-5, 5-3 Singles, 3-3 Title Matches)
Royal Rumble- January 27
-Participant, 30th in order. Four eliminations (Carlito, Mark Henry, Chavo Guerrero, and Triple H). Victor, lasting 8:27.
No Way Out- Februrary 17
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Randy Orton (victory via disqualification)
Wrestlemania XXIV- March 30
-Triple-Threat Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Randy Orton and Triple H (loss)
Backlash- April 27
-Four-Way Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Triple H, Randy Orton, and JBL (loss)
Judgment Day- May 18
-Singles Match, versus JBL (victory)
One Night Stand- June 1
-First Blood Match, versus JBL (victory)
Night of Champions- June 29
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Triple H (loss)
Great American Bash- July 20
-New York City Parking Lot Brawl, versus JBL (loss)
SummerSlam- August 17
-Singles Match, versus Batista (loss)
Legit Injury between SummerSlam and Survivor Series.
Survivor Series- November 23
-Singles Match for the World Heavyweight Championship(Challenger), versus Chris Jericho (victory)
Armageddon- December 14
-Singles Match for the World Heavyweight Championship(Champion), versus Chris Jericho (victory)

2009: (8-6, 6-4 Singles, 5-6 Title Matches)
Royal Rumble- January 25
-Singles Match for the World Heavyweight Championship(Champion), versus JBL (victory)
No Way Out- February 15
-Elimination Chamber Match for the World Heavyweight Championship(Champion), versus Edge, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Mike Knox, and Kane (loss)
Wrestlemania XXV- April 5
-Triple-Threat Match for the World Heavyweight Championship(Challenger), versus Edge and the Big Show (victory)
Backlash- April 26
-Last Man Standing Match for the World Heavyweight Championship(Champion), versus Edge (loss)
Judgment Day- May 17
-Singles Match, versus the Big Show (victory)
Extreme Rules- June 7
-Submission Match, versus the Big Show (victory)
The Bash- June 28
-Singles Match, versus The Miz (victory)
Night of Champions- July 26
-Triple-Threat Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Randy Orton and Triple H (loss)
SummerSlam- August 23
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Randy Orton (loss)
Breaking Point- September 13
-"I Quit" Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Randy Orton (victory)
Hell in a Cell- October 4
-Hell in a Cell Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Randy Orton (loss)
Bragging Rights- October 25
-'Anything Goes' Iron Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Randy Orton (victory)
Survivor Series- November 22
-Triple-Threat Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Triple H and Shawn Michaels (victory)
TLC- December 13
-Tables Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Sheamus (loss)

2010: (6-4, 4-2 Singles, 4-3 Title Matches)
Royal Rumble- January 31
-Participant, 19th in order. Four eliminations (Shelton Benjamin, Yoshi Tatsu, Kofi Kingston, and Batista). Eliminated by Edge, 29th out. Lasted 22:11.
Elimination Chamber- February 21
-Elimination Chamber Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Sheamus, Triple H, Randy Orton, Ted DiBiase, and Kofi Kingston (victory)
Wrestlemania XXVI- March 28
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Batista (victory)
Extreme Rules- April 25
-Last Man Standing Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Batista (victory)
Over the Limit- May 23
-"I Quit" Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Batista (victory)
Fatal 4-Way- June 20
-Four-Way Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Sheamus, Randy Orton, and Edge (loss)
Money in the Bank- July 18
-Steel Cage Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Sheamus (loss)
SummerSlam- August 15
-Part of Team WWE (Daniel Bryan, Edge, Chris Jericho, Bret Hart, R-Truth, and John Morrison) versus The Nexus (victory)
Night of Champions- September 19
-Six-Pack Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Randy Orton, Sheamus, Wade Barrett, Edge, and Chris Jericho (loss)
Hell in a Cell- October 3
-Singles Match, versus Wade Barrett (loss)
Gap between Hell in a Cell and TLC
TLC- December 19
-Chairs Match, versus Wade Barrett (victory)

2011: (6-5, 3-4 Singles, 4-5 Title Matches)
Royal Rumble (dates don't matter npw)
-Participant, 22nd in order. Seven Eliminations (CM Punk, Michael McGillicutty, David Otunga, Mason Ryan, Tyson Kidd, Heath Slater, Alex Riley). Eliminated, 36th Out. Lasted 34:17.
Elimination Chamber
-Elimination Chamber Match for #1 Contender for the WWE Championship, versus CM Punk, John Morrison, Sheamus, Randy Orton, and R-Truth (victory)
Wrestlemania XXVII
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus The Miz (loss)
Extreme Rules
-Triple-Threat Steel Cage Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus The Miz and John Morrison (victory)
Over The Limit
-"I Quit" Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus The Miz (victory)
Capitol Punishment
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus R-Truth (victory)
Money in the Bank
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus CM Punk (loss)
SummerSlam
-Singles Match for the Undisputed WWE Championship, versus CM Punk (loss)
Night of Champions
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Alberto Del Rio (victory)
Hell in a Cell
-Triple Threat Hell in a Cell Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Alberto Del Rio and CM Punk (loss)
Vengeance
-Last Man Standing Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus Alberto Del Rio (loss)
Survivor Series
-Tag Team Match with The Rock, versus The Miz and R-Truth (victory)

2012: (4-5-2, 3-3-2 Singles, 0-2-1 Title Matches)
Royal Rumble
-Singles Match, versus Kane (draw)
Elimination Chamber
-Ambulance Match, versus Kane (victory)
Wrestlemania XXVIII
-Singles Match, versus The Rock (loss)
Extreme Rules
-Extreme Rules Match, versus Brock Lesnar (victory)
Over The Limit
-No Disqualification Match, versus John Lauranitis (loss)
No Way Out
-Steel Cage Match, versus the Big Show (victory)
Money in the Bank
-MitB Ladder Match, versus Kane, Chris Jericho, The Big Show, and The Miz (victory)
SummerSlam
-Triple-Threat Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus CM Punk and the Big Show (loss)
Night of Champions
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus CM Punk (draw)
Survivor Series
-Triple-Threat Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus CM Punk and Ryback (loss)
TLC
-Ladder Match, versus Dolph Ziggler (loss)

2013: (4-2-1, 4-1-1 Singles, 4-1-1 Title Matches)
Royal Rumble
-Participant, 19th in order. Four eliminations (Cody Rhodes, Heath Slater, Antonio Cesaro, and Ryback). Victor, lasted 26:39.
Elimination Chamber
-Six-Man Tag Team Match with Ryback and Sheamus, versus The Shield (loss)
Wrestlemania 29
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Challenger), versus The Rock (victory)
Extreme Rules
-Last Man Standing Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Ryback (draw)
Payback
-Three Stages of Hell Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Ryback (victory)
Money in the Bank
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Mark Henry (victory)
SummerSlam
-Singles Match for the WWE Championship(Champion), versus Daniel Bryan (loss)
Hell in a Cell
-Singles Match for the World Heavyweight Championship(Challenger), versus Alberto Del Rio (victory)


Really, I think as far as any crowd appreciation goes, the '05 year is ultimately what killed him and turned him into a 'controversial fan-favorite', but that's just my two cents.
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