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Old 05-13-2007, 02:37 PM    (permalink
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Question Is DeSean Jackson a Ted Ginn type of player?

All the videos I've seen online are just him returning punts.


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Old 05-13-2007, 02:38 PM    (permalink
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no Ginn is a track star and Desean is a football player.
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no Ginn is a track star and Desean is a football player.
Yeah, he's a considerably better receiver. Unlike Ginn he can actually run routes.
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D-Jack has better short area quickness and he's not a long strider like Ginn which will ultimately make him more effective in the short to intermediate passing game at the next level.
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Outside of the small build and amazing speed, they seem to be somewhat different. People bash on Ginn more for whatever reason. I don't quite understand it.

Both need more polish. Jackson will me better at creating in the short spaces and across the middle although I wonder how he will hold up with his small frame. He is a better WR in that sense tho. Ginn has better pure speed once he gets going and is better at making people miss then people like to give him credit for. Just because hes not Reggie Bush doesn't mean he can't make people miss. I think Ginn will be the better KR in the Hester mold while Jackson will be a notch below, at the Dante Hall level.

Ginn will be the better deep threat and can do more on offense in terms of reverses and being a decoy. I think Jackson is flashier which is why people tend to like him more but I think Ginn will be a better big play threat and open up the offense more in the NFL then Jackson will.

All this as of now tho. IF Jackson is horrible next year, we won't even be having this conversation.
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Everyone seems to think that Ginn is the better KR than Jackson, but people have to understand that one of them is an all-american KR (Jackson).
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Everyone seems to think that Ginn is the better KR than Jackson, but people have to understand that one of them is an all-american KR (Jackson).
so is ginn. the kid returned the most punts in big ten history in three years of work. Anyway, i think that Ginn once coached up will be better, i mean he has only been a reciever for two years and he needs a little time. Ginn and jackson are both great threats and playmakers so in that sense both are alike
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Jackson is much more agile and nimble. He makes people miss much easier than Ginn. Better hands, better route runner, better return man. Jackson is just better than Ginn.
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so is ginn. the kid returned the most punts in big ten history in three years of work. Anyway, i think that Ginn once coached up will be better, i mean he has only been a reciever for two years and he needs a little time. Ginn and jackson are both great threats and playmakers so in that sense both are alike
Do you mean he returned the most punts for TD's?
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i think ginn was a better prospect than jackson will be. 170 is just too small and if he gets to 180+, he won't be desean jackson.
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so much hate for ted ginn...it makes me wonder if most people ever saw him play or just remember hearing how raw he was when he was a freshman
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no Ginn is a track star and Desean is a football player.
No, Ginn is a ball player.

Xavier Carter was a track star.

DeSean is just a more reliable player.
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no Ginn is a track star and Desean is a football player.
gimme a break. Ginn was the best CB in the country by far coming out of High School. Ginn has been a WR for 3 years of his life and was a star at that position. Jackson has been a WR his whole life, so he's had about 12 years of playing the position probably. Ginn has made Leon Hall, Aaron Ross, and some other top corners look like fools. If you don't think Ginn is a football player then you are insane.
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the best thing desean can do is increase his catch #'s. if he can rack up 5+ catches a game, and show he is a good route runner, and can catch in traffic and not really get shut down by anyone.. probably a top 15 pick
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Everyone seems to think that Ginn is the better KR than Jackson, but people have to understand that one of them is an all-american KR (Jackson).
Ginn has the all time RECORD for most return touchdowns. I swear the folks on this board have absolutely no idea what they're talking about when the subject of Ted Ginn comes up. They just see that he's a 180 lb. speed receiver and make all these asumptions about him. Ginn was one of the three best receivers in all of college football last year along with Johnson and Jarrett, his production was incredible, every time he touched the ball he could've scored.
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Ginn has the all time RECORD for most return touchdowns. I swear the folks on this board have absolutely no idea what they're talking about when the subject of Ted Ginn comes up. They just see that he's a 180 lb. speed receiver and make all these asumptions about him. Ginn was one of the three best receivers in all of college football last year along with Johnson and Jarrett, his production was incredible, every time he touched the ball he could've scored.
All time big 10 record perhaps, not the NCAA record. That said, I like Ginn over Jackson.
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Some of you idiots are reallly selling teddy short on how talented he actually is.
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Ginn has the all time RECORD for most return touchdowns. I swear the folks on this board have absolutely no idea what they're talking about when the subject of Ted Ginn comes up. They just see that he's a 180 lb. speed receiver and make all these asumptions about him. Ginn was one of the three best receivers in all of college football last year along with Johnson and Jarrett, his production was incredible, every time he touched the ball he could've scored.
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really the only thing I see in Ginn is good straight line speed nothing else.
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really the only thing I see in Ginn is good straight line speed nothing else.
Go watch his youtube video, watch all the jukes then come back, and I'll kick ya in the nuts for good measure. How's that sound?
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Its quite obvious your arguments over if its only based off a highlight video.
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Its quite obvious your arguments over if its only based off a highlight video.
It's obvious you've never seen him play, or else you'd know he has some pretty nice short area moves.
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It's obvious you've never seen him play, or else you'd know he has some pretty nice short area moves.
I think I just took a dump in your mouth. Ted Ginn isn't good in the short routes.
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I think I just took a dump in your mouth. Ted Ginn isn't good in the short routes.
I've seen him make plenty of people miss in short space over the last 3 years. I've never met a dude who gets off on dumping in other guys mouths. You must be one of those freaky f*ggots huh?
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It's obvious you've never seen him play, or else you'd know he has some pretty nice short area moves.
Highlight videos can make you think that.
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