Official Training Camp Thread - Page 2

bigbluedefense · 05-15-2007, 03:19 PM

Thats one thing that worries me. In a division as competitive as ours, we're relying on essentially a rookie kicker to come through in the clutch and make crucial field goals for us. That could bite us in the rear this season.

scottyboy · 05-15-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

Thats one thing that worries me. In a division as competitive as ours, we're relying on essentially a rookie kicker to come through in the clutch and make crucial field goals for us. That could bite us in the rear this season.

couldnt agree more. Plus, its not like he was high pick/well known college kicker. Not many people now much about him at all

Damix · 05-15-2007, 03:28 PM

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couldnt agree more. Plus, its not like he was high pick/well known college kicker. Not many people now much about him at all

He was probably the best kicker coming out that year.

scottyboy · 05-15-2007, 03:32 PM

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He was probably the best kicker coming out that year.

but he was undrafted right? even still, he isnt well known, or a high pick like sebastian or nugent.

I hope he does well, but i honestly can say i've never seen the kid kick in college.

BaLLiN · 05-15-2007, 04:33 PM

Brandon Myles got waived, I thought he could be good, anyway it will be tough with this new kicker, but I hope he can learn to be dependable unlike feely was, if he can kick one field goal in three times while being pressured by a crowd in overtime, I'll be good (Feely missed 3 times in overtime at seattle)

Forenci · 05-17-2007, 04:14 PM

To honest, I'm not worried if Ross had some trouble in his mini-camp, because honestly, I think CB is one of the hardest posistions to transistion to in the NFL. Very rarely will you ever see a rookie cornerback do well in mini-camps, it's generally you want to see good improvement during the actual Training Camp in a month or so.

hugegmenfan · 05-21-2007, 09:01 AM

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couldnt agree more. Plus, its not like he was high pick/well known college kicker. Not many people now much about him at all

im worried too but i do not understand why we are not going out and gettin a vet FA kicker? keep huston and a vet and whoever plays better in camp/preseason gets the job. guys like john carney, vanderjact, etc are FA who i would give a look.

LTgiants · 05-25-2007, 04:23 PM

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im worried too but i do not understand why we are not going out and gettin a vet FA kicker? keep huston and a vet and whoever plays better in camp/preseason gets the job. guys like john carney, vanderjact, etc are FA who i would give a look.

why would go sign a guy like john vanderjagt or carney when you just traded for lawrence tynes about 2 days ago

edit i didnt realize your post was old

ricky bobby · 05-25-2007, 06:25 PM

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why would go sign a guy like john vanderjagt or carney when you just traded for lawrence tynes about 2 days ago

edit i didnt realize your post was old

There's a new LT in town.

Damix · 07-29-2007, 04:15 PM

Wilson has been moved to Free Safety while Butler is playing with the first team as the strong safety, kind of a weird set up.

bigbluedefense · 07-29-2007, 04:19 PM

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Wilson has been moved to Free Safety while Butler is playing with the first team as the strong safety, kind of a weird set up.

Wilson is not a FS by any means. I think theyre just rewarding Butler for having a good offseason and sending a message to Demps that he needs to pick it up if he wants to stay in the starting lineup. Its more of a coaching ploy than a legitimate starting rotation.

I think it will be an open race at both safety positions. Im curious to see our rook too, and see what he can do. Butler is the only pure FS Ive seen in our lineup, we'll see what he can do.

Damix · 07-29-2007, 04:53 PM

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Wilson is not a FS by any means. I think theyre just rewarding Butler for having a good offseason and sending a message to Demps that he needs to pick it up if he wants to stay in the starting lineup. Its more of a coaching ploy than a legitimate starting rotation.

I think it will be an open race at both safety positions. Im curious to see our rook too, and see what he can do. Butler is the only pure FS Ive seen in our lineup, we'll see what he can do.

That why I feel its so weird, Butler could of competed to take Demps position last year if he was healthy at the start of training camp, but wasn't and was the back up FS all year, now that they are demoting Demps why is Butler being inserted into the lineup as a SS?

This is all per giants.com btw.

scottyboy · 07-29-2007, 05:53 PM

kiwi is struggling in coverage, but that is expected and should improve quickly. Bradshaw is looking very shifty and elusive, all 3 TE's showed great receiving skills(we knew shockey could but still...) Osi looked fired up and ready to be a leader with his play and even his words. Jared Lornezen looked GREAT and i feel Tim will be cut leaving Wright and Hefty Lefty as the 2 backup QB's

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BigDawg819 · 08-01-2007, 05:03 PM

What's the deal with the Strahan holdout? Is it about retiring or getting more money?

scottyboy · 08-01-2007, 06:41 PM

I honestly believe that he just wants to miss parts of training camp. He does want more money as well. He figures if he pulls this retiring to try and get more $ and miss some camp. I believe he'll show up in about a week, and will play. I still have faith in him, like him alot and know the Giants need him. Many other fans(on the Giants main forum site) believe he's just an @$$ and we dont need him and will be better off with out him, but they're wrong.

HerthaFootballFan · 08-01-2007, 07:46 PM

Anyone else just extatic with the potential of our offense? I think that Jacobs could easily turn out to be a annual probowl candidate with Bradshaw as a good COP guy. I think they're great compliments. And the passing game has me excited as well, once Diehl or Whimper establish themselves as the guy at LT and Eli can develop confidence in his blockers I think we'll see him hit a new level with 7 legit quality receiving targets, Shockey, Plax, Toomer, Smith, Moss, Boss and Tyree (a guy who really does the little things despite lacking the pure tools to be a game changer)

scottyboy · 08-02-2007, 03:17 PM

this is what i love to see. the trainers and assitant coaches are wearing them. also Jesse Armstead is all around camp evaluating and giving advice, I'd love to see him be a future LB coach or possibly DC in the future

Giantsfan1080 · 08-02-2007, 03:44 PM

Armstead is going to make a great coach very soon. I bet by next year he'll be an assistant somewhere.

Turtlepower · 08-03-2007, 11:48 AM

So I guess that Osi and blitzing LBs are having field days with our o-line. I really hope this is not a sign of things to come...

Giantsfan1080 · 08-03-2007, 12:32 PM

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So I guess that Osi and blitzing LBs are having field days with our o-line. I really hope this is not a sign of things to come...

It's a sign to come to see how improved our defense will be. From that the O-Line will gain numerous hours of playing against a good defense therefore gaining numerous hours of experience. That's how you have too look at it.

Jughead10 · 08-03-2007, 01:38 PM

FYI...good old Luke P, has already missed 4 days of training camp with the Bucs because of a tweaked back. It is almost just too predictable.

Giantsfan1080 · 08-03-2007, 01:45 PM

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FYI...good old Luke P, has already missed 4 days of training camp with the Bucs because of a tweaked back. It is almost just too predictable.

Certainly not a suprise there.

scottyboy · 08-03-2007, 03:16 PM

now Butler has been playing with the 1st team at safety with Gibril while Demps has been with the 2nd team. Now what are the chances Butler starts with Gibril over Demps this year? and if Butler beats him out and Johnson shows alot of promise as our backup, are there any chances we trade Demps(if anyone wants him) for possibly a kicker? I want to have faith in Will and want him to do well, but if Butler plays better, i'd rather see butler on the field...

LTgiants · 08-03-2007, 03:24 PM

i no the kickers aren't doing that good right now but why would you trade will demps for a kicker that just seems like a waist why wouldn't you try to trade him for a lineman if James butler wins the job?