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Old 03-27-2013, 12:15 PM    (permalink
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Dwayne Morgan just committed to UNLV!!! The program is returning back to national relevance.
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Reggie Johnson out for Miami for sweet 16 game.
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Dwayne Morgan just committed to UNLV!!! The program is returning back to national relevance.
might be too early to say this but next year is the SEC's to lose between Florida and Kentucky... both are going to be absolutely freaking loaded and scary deep
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might be too early to say this but next year is the SEC's to lose between Florida and Kentucky... both are going to be absolutely freaking loaded and scary deep
My boys won't lay down either with a team made up of Cook, Sheed, Jabari, Hood etc.
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might be too early to say this but next year is the SEC's to lose between Florida and Kentucky... both are going to be absolutely freaking loaded and scary deep
I don't disagree with you there. However, I'm skeptical of Kentucky being able to win the tournament. I think they'll make it next year because Goodwin and Poythress may very well be back. Cauley-Stein and Noel are as good as gone.
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poythress needs to get the hell out because wiggins and randle will take all of his minutes
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You can tell Poythress is a solid player but nothing special.

Archie Goodwin on the other hand is special imo. Only player that was showing fire by the end of the season.
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nobody will care but according to cbs collins for the northwestern job is a done deal
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nobody will care but according to cbs collins for the northwestern job is a done deal
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poythress needs to get the hell out because wiggins and randle will take all of his minutes
I thought Wiggins was uncommitted.
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Will be interesting to see where Wiggins goes. Speculation a bunch of different ways. Aaron Gordon is another one that will be interesting.
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I think Gordon will stay out west and go with Oregon/Washington/Zona, but it is hard to count out UK.
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Shaka smart turns down UCLA for a VCU extension.

Brad Stevens? Or does he say where he'll have job security?
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I think Gordon will stay out west and go with Oregon/Washington/Zona, but it is hard to count out UK.
I'll be surprised if he goes to UK. All along nobody's really thought he'll go there, he's thought to be a west coast guy, and there's just not a lot of room. Right now conventional logic says Arizona, but they're really stacked in the frontcourt. Think he wants to play some three though (which is silly to me, unless he's actually 6'7 he's a long-term 4 all the way, but I digress). Oregon is a dark horse, and where I'd like to see him go, but I doubt it happens. Supposedly he has a good relationship with Romar, but I don't think U-Dub is confident right now.

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Brad Stevens? Or does he say where he'll have job security?
Also would be very surprised if Stevens goes there. Nobody wants that job. Expectations are ridiculous. That said, hopefully JW doesn't take it as I know he's been linked. Think Gottfried is the best option they'll get who will actually come and he ends up being the guy, but that's just a guess. Would be interesting to see what happens with the guys committed to NCSU in that case, since he's got a solid class lined up.
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My hunch is Stevens stays..

Maybe a guy like Brown or Gottfried.
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Also would be very surprised if Stevens goes there. Nobody wants that job. Expectations are ridiculous. That said, hopefully JW doesn't take it as I know he's been linked. Think Gottfried is the best option they'll get who will actually come and he ends up being the guy, but that's just a guess. Would be interesting to see what happens with the guys committed to NCSU in that case, since he's got a solid class lined up.
I'd be surprised if Stevens leaves too because he seems like the kind of guy that's content where he is, but saying "nobody wants that job" is a bit of a stretch. I agree that the pressure is unreasonably high, but its still one of the most prestigious jobs in the country, will pay a lot, is in a place people want to live, and has LA to recruit from.

It definitely takes a certain kind of coach to be up for the job, but its still big time.
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he is already Butlers greatest coach isnt he
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Yea. I would be curious to see how Stevens would handle lofty expectations with recruiting. Everyone already knows his x and o prowess but I'd like to see if he can reel in the big fish.

Will be an interesting process for sure. The more I think about it I could see him taking off. Another Thad Matta assistant takes a big time job?
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I'd be surprised if Stevens leaves too because he seems like the kind of guy that's content where he is, but saying "nobody wants that job" is a bit of a stretch. I agree that the pressure is unreasonably high, but its still one of the most prestigious jobs in the country, will pay a lot, is in a place people want to live, and has LA to recruit from.

It definitely takes a certain kind of coach to be up for the job, but its still big time.
Oh there's no denying it's a big time job, I exaggerated. Obviously a legitimate coach is going to take it, but I think it's telling that Smart passed. Imagine Stevens will do the same, and they'll get a good coach but not the star you would expect UCLA to land. I think it was time for a change and the Howland's system didn't really fit what those top level recruits can do athletically, but he had a lot of success there and still got fired. Think it'll just have coaches reluctant for now.
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Oh there's no denying it's a big time job, I exaggerated. Obviously a legitimate coach is going to take it, but I think it's telling that Smart passed. Imagine Stevens will do the same, and they'll get a good coach but not the star you would expect UCLA to land. I think it was time for a change and the Howland's system didn't really fit what those top level recruits can do athletically, but he had a lot of success there and still got fired. Think it'll just have coaches reluctant for now.
I'm not reading a ton into Smart staying at VCU because he also seems like the kind of guy that was satisfied where he was at. We also have no idea if UCLA was actually making a hard push for Shaka. The media hyped up the Shaka to UCLA stuff, but we really have no idea if he was actually a top candidate for them or not.

I agree that is was time for a change from Howland although I say so reluctantly. Howland is a really good coach, but he's a hard ass that wants his players to commit themselves defensively and play withing his structured half court offense. Unfortunately that's not the kind of basketball a lot of the top recruits want to play. I think Howland's biggest downfall was that as time went on at UCLA he started gunning for those big, flashy 5 star recruits. It worked with Love, but other than that it ultimately hurt him because players moaned about his style and then left early, leaving him with a blank slate. Howland's best recruits were local kids who committed to playing his brand of basketball and were willing to stay multiple years. Afflalo, Farmar, Shipp, Collison, and Westbrook (even though he left after 2 years) were all local kids and none of them were 5 star guys.

It will be interesting to see how the search develops. Stevens is my first choice (outside of the pipe dream coaches). He seems unlikely at this point, but who knows really.
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I don't see Stevens leaving Butler. He could be an icon there and build up that program to a perennial power like Mark Few @ Gonzaga or how Lute Olson and Jim Calhoun did it at Arizona and UConn.

On the UCLA job - that is definitely a coveted job by all means. They just need to find the right guy that can handle the expectations. Same thing that happened with Kentucky - they went through a gauntlet of people until they found the right guy for the job which was Calipari.
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I don't see Stevens leaving Butler. He could be an icon there and build up that program to a perennial power like Mark Few @ Gonzaga or how Lute Olson and Jim Calhoun did it at Arizona and UConn.

On the UCLA job - that is definitely a coveted job by all means. They just need to find the right guy that can handle the expectations. Same thing that happened with Kentucky - they went through a gauntlet of people until they found the right guy for the job which was Calipari.
I exactly agree with the bold and that's much easier said than done. As you mentioned, UK went through a lull pre Calipari as did UNC before Roy Williams. It's hard to find that perfect guy for the big time jobs.

I also agree that Stevens seems like he will stay at Butler, buuuuuuuuuut....

KTLA (local news station) is reporting that "UCLA sources" are saying that Stevens was on the UCLA campus for an interview today. That could be total BS, but interesting nonetheless.
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I would be really surprised if Stevens left now. Just based simply on the fact that he didn't leave after all his guys from the Final Fours teams were gone, why would he leave now and another solid year with a new set of players?

I never really bought the Shaka to UCLA vibes. I don't know? Shaka and UCLA do not seem like a natural fit IMO. Then again , Howland coming over from Pitt didn't seem like a good fit either at the time.
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