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Old 05-14-2013, 08:51 PM    (permalink
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Calipari didn't get outcoached. His kids couldn't hit FT's.
Maybe he should have taught them how to shoot FTs. NCAA tournament losses can be blamed solely on a coach sucking.
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I don't have basketball expectations therefore what Thad has done is absolutely incredible.

2 final fours
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Thad also ran into loaded Florida teams unfortunately.
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There is also a reason why Kansas fans hated Roy Williams when he was there.

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Well unfortunately, Self ran into a terrible Michigan team. That team was garbage, he is a really ****** coach for losing that one.
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There is also a reason why Kansas fans hated Roy Williams when he was there.
All you've managed to convince me of is that there are a lot of stupid ******* Kansas fans.
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There is also a reason why Kansas fans hated Roy Williams when he was there.


^^^What Irish said.

Are you going to try to tell us that Williams' 4 final fours in 15 years is terrible too?
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Calipari didn't get outcoached. His kids couldn't hit FT's.
You just blamed Bill Self for Kansas losing to Michigan when Elijah Johnson couldn't hit free throws. You can't have it both ways.
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All you've managed to convince me of is that there are a lot of stupid ******* Kansas fans.
I'll accept the W for that.
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If you think that those years were they went to the elite 8 with the talent they had on those teams was looked at as successful, then I don't know what to tell you man.

The team he had this year reaching the sweet 16 and bowing out to Michigan was a success. Winner.

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And, yeah, Kansas fans expect Final Fours. Nothing wrong with that even if it is obnoxious. Just like anything less than a Super Bowl is disappointing to Patriots fans and anything less than a World Series will always be failure for Yankees fans.

Fan expectations don't pertain to coach performance. And Bill Self has been one of the 2-3 best, possibly the best in the recent past.
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You just blamed Bill Self for Kansas losing to Michigan when Elijah Johnson couldn't hit free throws. You can't have it both ways.
Whoa whoa whoa. WHOA. Yes he missed ONE FT. Memphis didn't have a 11pt lead with less than 4 minutes to go like Kansas did vs Michigan and completely went out of their offense and chucking up 3's while Self just watched it happen.

Memphis missed 4 of 5 FT's with less than 45 seconds.

Slightly different.

I'm not a Kansas fan, but their program is amazing. I just don't think Bill Self is an elite coach at all. It's not like he came to a small program and built them up, he took over for Roy and continued the recruiting but has still failed when he shouldn't have many times.
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Whoa whoa whoa. WHOA. Yes he missed ONE FT. Memphis didn't have a 11pt lead with less than 4 minutes to go like Kansas did vs Michigan and completely went out of their offense and chucking up 3's while Self just watched it happen.

Memphis missed 4 of 5 FT's with less than 45 seconds.

Slightly different.

You're right, they had a 9 point lead with 2 minutes left which is even harder to blow. And they had already blown the lead by the time they got to the free throws you're talking about.
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You're right, they had a 9 point lead with 2 minutes left which is even harder to blow. And they had already blown the lead by the time they got to the free throws you're talking about.
They had a 4 point lead when Roberts missed his 1st FT of a 1 on 1.
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And again I'm stuck here wondering what you think your point is. If we're going by your logic then it's the coach's fault it was at 4 with over a minute to go in the first place. 4 points is nothing close to an insurmountable lead.

Whatever. I'm done arguing about a game that happened 5 years ago.

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You said the lead was blown when they missed the FT's.

They were up 2 possessions when the first missed FT occurred and a minute remaining. They then proceeded to miss 3 more FT's in less than a minute.

That would be my point. Don't get stuck : )

And I put my finals thoughts on Self on the post at top of page.
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Hey hey hey...none of you USC fans...none of that.
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So yeah Baller is mad that Self got Wiggins.
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Hey hey hey...none of you USC fans...none of that.

Let me tell you something pierce2walker, you out here talking about a clique. The only clique you need to know about is the USC Trojans and Andy Enfield. See, because what you dealing with here is Dunk City. It's non-stop from this point on in PAC 12 play. WE TAKE WHAT WE WANT!!! And after we take Jordan McLaughlin & Malik Pope, we want the gold sucka!


Joe Bruin, We coming for you *****!

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Let me tell you something pierce2walker, you out here talking about a clique. The only clique you need to know about is the USC Trojans and Andy Enfield. See, because what you dealing with here is Dunk City. It's non-stop from this point on in PAC 12 play. WE TAKE WHAT WE WANT!!! And after we take Jordan McLaughlin & Malik Pope, we want the gold sucka!


Joe Bruin, We coming for you *****!

Malik Pope is going to Boise State.
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