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I don't usually make threads like this because Lord knows the board is packed with them, but I was curious to see how some of the posters viewed two of up and coming DE's in the league. I'm not going to make a poll or anything, but just was seeking some good discussion about the issue. So, commence!
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Personally, I take Will Smith. He is an animal on the field. He is more of a force against the run than Umenyiora from what I have seen, and I have seen a lot more of Will than Osi. Smith also has less injury concerns than Osi for this plain and simple reason:

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Did he really say that?
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he did say it, and he's hilarious. I love Osi, my favorite player in the NFL. Also i think he likes to be called by his proper name, Chief Osi.

edit: I may use that quote in my sig + my 800th post on my favorite NFL player!! :)
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Osi is a better and more productive DE than Julius Peppers.

Where is number10?

Sorry, I had to.
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Most will probably pick Osi Umenyiora, since he's more known and 2006 was Smiths first year as a starter.
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Just for that Osi quote, he is #2 on my list behind Joakim Noah in front of Tim Duncan.
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I like Osi. I don't have him rated as high as Number10, but I have him a lot higher than most do.

Will Smith is good too, I wanted him in 2004 if Tommie Harris wasn't around (thankfully he was), but I'm gonna stick with Osi, and would up against almost any DE not named Peppers.
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Most will probably pick Osi Umenyiora, since he's more known and 2006 was Smiths first year as a starter.
was it? he had 40 tackles then 60 tackles aswell as 7.5 sacks followed by 8.5

says he played all 16 games but i thought he was a starter or was Darren Howard and Grant ahead of him?
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was it? he had 40 tackles then 60 tackles aswell as 7.5 sacks followed by 8.5

says he played all 16 games but i thought he was a starter or was Darren Howard and Grant ahead of him?
2004 30 Tackles, 10 Assists, 7.5 Sacks, 6 Forced Fumbles
2005 48 Tackles, 12 Assists, 8.5 Sacks, 2 Forced Fumbles

Both years, Will Smith was the back-up to Charles Grant and Darren Howard. Smith did rotate with Howard often.
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Osi Umenyiora has 125 Tackles, 54 Assists, 28.5 Sacks, 8 Passes Defended, and 9 Forced Fumbles in 56 games played.

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Osi really is an Nigerian Cheif I believe. I like Will Smith a lot. I really think they are pretty even. Osi was on par for another monster season until he got hurt last year. And when he came back it was obvious that he wasn't 100%.
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Will Smith has 109 Tackles, 40 Assists, 26.5 Sacks, 9 Passes Defended, and 11 Forced Fumbles in 46 games played.
Eh, Osi played in 13 games his rookie season of which he saw basically only time on special teams until the last two games of the season.
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I like Osi. I don't have him rated as high as Number10, but I have him a lot higher than most do.

Will Smith is good too, I wanted him in 2004 if Tommie Harris wasn't around (thankfully he was), but I'm gonna stick with Osi, and would up against almost any DE not named Peppers.
I am quite surprised that you were able to say that about a Giant player. Usually, you pull a Flloyd Mayweather and jab and juke so we can't hit ya back.

But in all seriousness, I have a feeling this thread will get ugly. But I agree with BF51, if you actually watch Osi play, you'd see that there aren't many in the league that are better.

Thats taking nothing away from Will Smith, as I feel he's also a great upcoming DE, and I would love to have either on my team. But I like Osi a lil bit more.

Will Smith is almost like Osi Part 2...although I think Osi is a little bit faster, with equal strength. Osi I think has more potential standing up in a rushbacker role as well. He also plays with better technique, although slightly. Its close. But I think all homerism aside, Osi is slightly better.
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dont see to much of either team so i cant really decifer but both have bright futures
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And by the way guys, that Osi quote....thats how he is.

He's a jokester and was saying it as a joke. He's the one who came up with the whole "ballin" thing. Don't take it to the titty.
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And by the way guys, that Osi quote....thats how he is.

He's a jokester and was saying it as a joke. He's the one who came up with the whole "ballin" thing. Don't take it to the titty.
I thought Strahan came up with "ballin".
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Osi is just a funny guy. He had his locker put next to the mirror lol, thats just how he is! plus he has an elevator in his house!!! i'm actually going to his house this summer!!!!
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I thought Strahan came up with "ballin".
No, Osi did

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-enSSCM8qDs
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