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Old 05-18-2007, 06:17 PM    (permalink
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where would you rank him, GRF?
Eli or Smith?

Nobody is in a particular order except Eli Manning and Alex Smith.

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Carson Palmer
Donovan McNabb
Marc Bulger
Matt Hasselbeck
Ben Roethlisberger

9. Eli Manning


Jay Cutler
Brett Favre
Philip Rivers
Chad Pennington
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Michael Vick
Jason Campbell

18. Alex Smith
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Eli or Smith?

Nobody is in a particular order except Eli Manning and Alex Smith.

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Carson Palmer
Donovan McNabb
Marc Bulger
Matt Hasselbeck
Ben Roethlisberger

9. Eli Manning


Jay Cutler
Brett Favre
Philip Rivers
Chad Pennington
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Michael Vick
Jason Campbell

18. Alex Smith
how is Jason Campell a better starer than Smith?
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Rex Grossman will be a top ten QB this year.

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typo my bad.
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Eli or Smith?

Nobody is in a particular order except Eli Manning and Alex Smith.

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Carson Palmer
Donovan McNabb
Marc Bulger
Matt Hasselbeck
Ben Roethlisberger

9. Eli Manning


Jay Cutler
Brett Favre
Philip Rivers
Chad Pennington
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Michael Vick
Jason Campbell

18. Alex Smith
GRF! You still hating on Alex Smith? Get over it dude.
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whose josh mccown starting for...i thought he was WR now, hah...
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I'll give this a shot...

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Carson Palmer
4. Drew Brees
5. Marc Bulger
6. Donovan McNabb
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Philip Rivers
9. Ben Roethlisberger (assuming he can rebound from last year's woes)
10. Steve McNair
11. Eli Manning
12. Brett Favre
13. Chad Pennington
14. Tony Romo
15. Matt Leinart
16. Jay Cutler
17. J.P. Losman
18. Vince Young
19. Jake Delhomme
20. Alex Smith
21. Trent Green
22. Jeff Garcia
23. Michael Vick
24. Byron Leftwich
25. Damon Huard
26. Jon Kitna
27. Rex Grossman
28. Jason Campbell
29. Matt Schaub
30. Charlie Frye
31. Josh McCown
32. Tarvaris Jackson


Eh... ranking #10 to about #25 is pretty hard.
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I know Favre is on the downend and plain old end of his career, but how can his still be that low on any? Most people look at career wins for a starter and hes near the top, 2 away. I love Jay Cutler, but no way in hell, as of RIGHT NOW he is better than favre stater wise. Remember experience does help, plus its not like Farve has a lot to work with these last few years. All these list seem more of Potential wise other than actually the good QBs, after 5 of course. You put Favre in SD insted of Rivers, the **** would hit the fan
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I think Favre is still a fringe top 10 QB, but that's mainly due to the overall poor quality of starting QB's in the league at this point.
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I saw this

http://fannation.com/blogs/post/14552?cnn=yes


and it was a terrible list imo. I cant believe that Vick and Romo are so high.


Also how can they possibly say that Jon Kitna and Alex Smith are better then Eli Manning. People really underrate Eli Manning. Trent Green also got disrespected pretty bad. he was very good outside last year. Here's my list

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Carson Palmer
5. Donovan McNabb
6. Marc Bulger
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Ben Roethlisberger
9. Jay Cutler
10. Brett Favre
11. Eli Manning
12. Philip Rivers
13. Chad Pennington
14. Vince Young
15. Matt Leinart
16. Michael Vick
17. Tony Romo
18. Trent Green (assuming he's a Dolphin)
19. Steve McNair
20. Alex Smith
21. Jason Campbell
22. Jake Delhomme
23. Jeff Garcia
24. J.P. Losman
25. Byron Leftwich
26. Rex Grossman
27. Jon Kitna
28. Matt Schaub
29. Damon Huard
30. Charlie Frye
31. Tarvaris Jackson
32. Josh McCown


what do you think?
I like your's for having Cutler at 9 :)
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I know Favre is on the downend and plain old end of his career, but how can his still be that low on any? Most people look at career wins for a starter and hes near the top, 2 away. I love Jay Cutler, but no way in hell, as of RIGHT NOW he is better than favre stater wise. Remember experience does help, plus its not like Farve has a lot to work with these last few years. All these list seem more of Potential wise other than actually the good QBs, after 5 of course. You put Favre in SD insted of Rivers, the **** would hit the fan

Eh, I dunno, it's debateable at this point, at least. Cutler, in his 5 games was nothing short of excellent for a rookie(with Big Ben setting the standard at exceptional) and became the first since Marino(I think) to have his first 4 games with 2+ TD passes. Obviously he did have a little more to work with, but it isn't a whole lot more. If this is going into next year, it's possible Cutler will be the better player next year. Favre is declining, Cutler is rising.
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I saw this

http://fannation.com/blogs/post/14552?cnn=yes


and it was a terrible list imo. I cant believe that Vick and Romo are so high.


Also how can they possibly say that Jon Kitna and Alex Smith are better then Eli Manning. People really underrate Eli Manning. Trent Green also got disrespected pretty bad. he was very good outside last year. Here's my list

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Carson Palmer
5. Donovan McNabb
6. Marc Bulger
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Ben Roethlisberger
9. Jay Cutler
10. Brett Favre
11. Eli Manning
12. Philip Rivers
13. Chad Pennington
14. Vince Young
15. Matt Leinart
16. Michael Vick
17. Tony Romo
18. Trent Green (assuming he's a Dolphin)
19. Steve McNair
20. Alex Smith
21. Jason Campbell
22. Jake Delhomme
23. Jeff Garcia
24. J.P. Losman
25. Byron Leftwich
26. Rex Grossman
27. Jon Kitna
28. Matt Schaub
29. Damon Huard
30. Charlie Frye
31. Tarvaris Jackson
32. Josh McCown


what do you think?

umm phillip rivers > eli.... carson palmer > drew brees and cutler is not top 10...

i like this list better
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I'll give this a shot...

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Carson Palmer
4. Drew Brees
5. Marc Bulger
6. Donovan McNabb
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Philip Rivers
9. Ben Roethlisberger (assuming he can rebound from last year's woes)
10. Steve McNair
11. Eli Manning
12. Brett Favre
13. Chad Pennington
14. Tony Romo
15. Matt Leinart
16. Jay Cutler
17. J.P. Losman
18. Vince Young
19. Jake Delhomme
20. Alex Smith
21. Trent Green
22. Jeff Garcia
23. Michael Vick
24. Byron Leftwich
25. Damon Huard
26. Jon Kitna
27. Rex Grossman
28. Jason Campbell
29. Matt Schaub
30. Charlie Frye
31. Josh McCown
32. Tarvaris Jackson


Eh... ranking #10 to about #25 is pretty hard.
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this is ridiculous. the top five is pretty easy. and i really don't like ben as #10. pennington gets flack, but he's the bionic man. and any homer that says VY is better than Vick is just that. Vick has his game down to a science. Anything that VY does well I think isn't due to his poise as much as jeff fisher's awesomeness. He's good. But he's no Vick yet. (and i don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing)

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Carson Palmer
4. Drew Brees
5. Marc Bulger
6. Matt Hasselbeck
7. Donovan McNabb
8. Philip Rivers
9. Brett Favre
10. Ben Roethlisberger
11. Chad Pennington
12. Steve McNair
13. Jake Delhomme
14. Matt Leinart
15. Jay Cutler
16. Eli Manning
17. Alex Smith
18. Michael Vick
19. Rex Grossman
20. J.P. Losman
21. Trent Green
22. Jeff Garcia
23. Tony Romo
24. Byron Leftwich
25. Damon Huard
26. Vince Young
27. Jason Campbell
28. Jon Kitna
29. Matt Schaub
30. Josh McCown
31. Charlie Frye
32. Tarvaris Jackson
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I saw this

http://fannation.com/blogs/post/14552?cnn=yes


and it was a terrible list imo. I cant believe that Vick and Romo are so high.


Also how can they possibly say that Jon Kitna and Alex Smith are better then Eli Manning. People really underrate Eli Manning. Trent Green also got disrespected pretty bad. he was very good outside last year. Here's my list

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Carson Palmer
5. Donovan McNabb
6. Marc Bulger
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Ben Roethlisberger
9. Jay Cutler
10. Brett Favre
11. Eli Manning
12. Philip Rivers
13. Chad Pennington
14. Vince Young
15. Matt Leinart
16. Michael Vick
17. Tony Romo
18. Trent Green (assuming he's a Dolphin)
19. Steve McNair
20. Alex Smith
21. Jason Campbell
22. Jake Delhomme
23. Jeff Garcia
24. J.P. Losman
25. Byron Leftwich
26. Rex Grossman
27. Jon Kitna
28. Matt Schaub
29. Damon Huard
30. Charlie Frye
31. Tarvaris Jackson
32. Josh McCown


what do you think?

Josh McCown is better than Tarvaris, Kitna, and Schaub.

And Alex Smith, Jason Campbell, and J.P. Losman are all better than McNair.
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LOL, you're too hard on McNair, man!
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LOL @ homerism. At this point, Eli is better than VY.
He could be better than Vince if Coughlin wasn't his head coach. Just go watch what happened when the Titans played the Giants. Then come back and tell me who the better quarterback is.
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LOL @ Eli ahead of Vince and McNair
51% completion %, 12 TDs to 13 INTs, and a whopping 66 QB rating. Oh yeah Vince is a god.
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Old 05-18-2007, 08:44 PM    (permalink
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51% completion %, 12 TDs to 13 INTs, and a whopping 66 QB rating. Oh yeah Vince is a god.
Ooh. But he's a winner.
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as much as i hate eli vince isnt better than eli right now, but will be.
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51% completion %, 12 TDs to 13 INTs, and a whopping 66 QB rating. Oh yeah Vince is a god.
Yeah because stats mean everything and if we are doing stats you are leaving out his rushing stats. 552 yards and 7 TDs. Both of which are rookie records for a quarterback. You think quarterback play is all about how good your QB rating is? There's a lot more factored into it.

Remind me again. Who won rookie of the year?
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