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Old 05-20-2007, 12:38 AM    (permalink
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and ike taylor is better than terrance newman
Didn't Ike Taylor suck last season?
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Old 05-20-2007, 12:40 AM    (permalink
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and ike taylor is better than terrance newman
Yes you can make a argument for big Ben. He slipped my mind mine when making the list.

Newman vs. Ike Taylor ... This only going to go to a string of homerism post, so not goint to touch that.....



Newman is better.
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Old 05-20-2007, 12:43 AM    (permalink
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Didn't Ike Taylor suck last season?

i wouldnt say suck
i would say a bad year
the whole team downplayed last year with the exception of willie

i would expect ike taylor to be back to form this year

just ask chad johnson if ike is good or not

but ike played down and still was one of the bright spots int he defensive backfield by leadin the dbs in pbus
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Yes you can make a argument for big Ben. He slipped my mind mine when making the list.

Newman vs. Ike Taylor ... This only going to go to a string of homerism post, so not goint to touch that.....



Newman is better.

how so is newman better
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Also I forgot Chris Hope!? Terrible on my part. He should be on htere.
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if u go by numbers alone

newman had 63 takles 1 int and 11 pbu

taylor 69 takles 2 int and 15 pbu

while those r only numbers
i can only recall ike gettin abused by one reciever and that was javon walker
i wished i coudl find stats on how many tds the corners allowed and stuff
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Old 05-20-2007, 12:49 AM    (permalink
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taylor is still in his prime while he is 2 years younger than newman

and hes also bigger

and just as fast
and ikes cover skills r up there too
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how so is newman better
He has been the best player on the defensive side of ball for the Cowboys for the past few seasons. Neutralizing some of the better WR during that time. And you can't really look at the stats and let that deceive you. I mean your not going to get alot of INT when your not thrown to. And it's not his fault whenever he has a INT inline, Roy Williams finds a away to hit wherever the ball is, not matter who's in his way. He really has been the cornerpiece, the most consistent player for Cowboys as a whole. Not just on defense.
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Why are people putting Jon Runyan? He made it 2002 or 2003 didn't he?
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and ike taylor is better than terrance newman
That is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I'm an Eagles fan and I hate the Cowboys and Terrence Newman but I'll tell you he's better than Ike Taylor.

I was hoping this was a list of people who were snubbed from the pro bowl last season, I'll do a list of that later maybe.
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You're right he did make it in 2003. My bad.
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Lol, I wish Achilles was here to argue Newman vs. Taylor in here. I'd actually side with Achilles, but he'd make so many dumb posts I'd have to interject to piss him off.
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yea man I am not a Cowboy fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I give a lot of credit to Newman, he is one of the best corners in this league, theres no way Id leave him out of my top 10, and in 4 years he has only had 1 bad year and has been great in the last 2. Ike Taylor is a guy who had one great season after his career before that had consisted of him bouncing around and not getting any PT. And last year he didnt do anything to make me believe he will ever have another season as good as his 05 season.
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How does Heath Miller make it over Winslow?

I know I'm a huge Winslow fan and a huge Browns fan, but that doesn't make sense at all to me.
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i wouldnt say suck
i would say a bad year
the whole team downplayed last year with the exception of willie

i would expect ike taylor to be back to form this year

just ask chad johnson if ike is good or not

but ike played down and still was one of the bright spots int he defensive backfield by leadin the dbs in pbus
Ask Chad Johnson if Leigh Bodden is good... He said Bodden is the best cornerback east of Denver.
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Hasn't Boldin been in multiple Pro Bowls?
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Hasn't Boldin been in multiple Pro Bowls?
i think that was fitz, i dont belive he has made one yet.
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If you can think of any Browns player good enough to make the list, it's very very very likely he didn't make it to the probowl.
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