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Old 05-21-2007, 01:04 AM    (permalink
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Actually our last few games of the season were in the playoffs while Brett Favre was home putting up streamers and picking out pastels for his daughters sweet 16 party. You can't compare games that didn't mean **** for us, that's a ridiculously desperate attempt to try to create a false impression of superiority.
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Berrian is better than Jennings, or if anything it's a push. And a healthy Bradley is better than anything Green Bay has right now.

Btw, who the hell is GB's FB? McKie is better than anyone I'm seeing on GB's roster right now.
Wow. This post surprises me. How is Bradley better than Driver? How is Bradley even better than Jennings? Am I misreading this or something?

Also, I think Jennings and Berrian are too close to call at this point. They actually are somewhat similar although I think Jennings has a bit more upside (he could develop into a more complete receiver than Berrian, at least that's what I think).

It's tough to say the Packers WRs are better than anybody's because of what happened after Jennings got hurt last season, but on paper they're very close and could even be better than the Bears.
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Oh...Packers FB situation isn't clear yet. It will be decided in training camp

Brandon Miree - Starter last season
Corey White - UDFA, very fast, impressive thus far, getting reps at HB also
Korey Hall - Draft pick, played LB in college, more of a special teamer right now but they're teaching him FB
DeShawn Wynn - Draft pick, played HB in college but has the size to play FB. Packers are looking at converting him although he could see time at both spots.

Those are the main contenders. Right now, I think Hall will be on the roster for sure as a special teamer and backup FB. Wynn should also earn a roster spot since he can play multiple positions and is the big back the Packers need. White will be hard pressed to crack the roster although if he keeps impressing coaches he could displace Miree.
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Berrian is better than Jennings, or if anything it's a push. And a healthy Bradley is better than anything Green Bay has right now.

Btw, who the hell is GB's FB? McKie is better than anyone I'm seeing on GB's roster right now.
Driver>>>>Bradley
Jennings>Berrian
If the packers get KRob back, the third receiver is ahead of the bears also.
FB is neither team's strong suit.
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Driver>>>>Bradley
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If the packers get KRob back, the third receiver is ahead of the bears also.
FB is neither team's strong suit.
I meant Bradley is better than what Green Bay has at the #3 slot. Oh and it's pretty equal between Jennings and Berrian, so I'd say it's a push.
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Bradley better than Koren Robinson Sweetness? ( wait he needs to get outta the clanker first)






Rex Grossman is a Dbag, Brett Favre is not.
Once Koren Robinson can actually stay on the field, then we'll talk but for now Bradley has the edge for the #3 slot.

And McKie is still better than what the Packers have right now. He's not a great FB but he's solid. He did help open up holes for a pretty potent rushing attack this year. That and he's a good reciever out of the backfield.
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If the packers get KRob back, the third receiver is ahead of the bears also.
FB is neither team's strong suit.
There is really nothing to justify Jennings ahead of Berrian at this point. Last season Berrian outperformed Jennings in basically any category you can think of. Sure Jennings could be better, but there's really no way to justify that at this point.

Comparing starters vs. starters has always been a really dumb way to compare teams anyway since this isn't basketball or boxing, but if you want to go there some of your comparisons are pretty baseless.
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There is really nothing to justify Jennings ahead of Berrian at this point. Last season Berrian outperformed Jennings in basically any category you can think of. Sure Jennings could be better, but there's really no way to justify that at this point.

Comparing starters vs. starters has always been a really dumb way to compare teams anyway since this isn't basketball or boxing, but if you want to go there some of your comparisons are pretty baseless.
Actually, Jennings outperformed Berrian until his injury. Had Jennings not been injured, he would have easily surpassed Berrian statistically.

I agree that comparing starters vs. starters doesn't tell much about teams as a whole.
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Actually, Jennings outperformed Berrian until his injury. Had Jennings not been injured, he would have easily surpassed Berrian statistically.
Well being injured is part of the game. And you can't say he would have unless you're Miss Cleo. Either way, he didn't, so....he didn't.

I think it's a little unbalanced to compare recievers in that way anyway because the Packers are a pass first team where ours is a run first. Not to mention that you had a more stable QB situation last year.
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When exactly did Jennings get hurt anyway? I remember that but according to NFL.com he only missed the meaningless Week 17 game against us.
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Actually, Jennings outperformed Berrian until his injury. Had Jennings not been injured, he would have easily surpassed Berrian statistically.
Not according to NFL.com

Jennings had 632 yards and 3 TD's and Berrian had 775 and 6 TD's.

Berrian was basically inactive for about 3 games (injured for the Giants, didn't play much against the Jets or the Packers).

Right now it's a push with them. Jennings could very well be the better WR but we have no idea. And Berrian could transform himself into a complete WR this year, you never know. Therefore it's a push.
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When exactly did Jennings get hurt anyway? I remember that but according to NFL.com he only missed the meaningless Week 17 game against us.
I was reading that too. Kinda confused me, I remember Packer fans saying he was hurt but according to NFL.com he didn't miss but one game, and in every game he had yards and receptions. Hmmmm.....Interesting.
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I was reading that too. Kinda confused me, I remember Packer fans saying he was hurt but according to NFL.com he didn't miss but one game, and in every game he had yards and receptions. Hmmmm.....Interesting.
He was nowhere near as effective after he hurt his ankle. I'm not sure on exactly how much time he missed, but he definitely had less balls thrown his way.

If you look at game logs you'll see that Jennings was great early in the year but after his injury he wasn't the same player.
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He was nowhere near as effective after he hurt his ankle. I'm not sure on exactly how much time he missed, but he definitely had less balls thrown his way.

If you look at game logs you'll see that Jennings was great early in the year but after his injury he wasn't the same player.
Eh he went up and down. Had 2 100 yard games and an 80 yard game early, but he still was around the 50 yard mark a bunch as the season went on.

Berrian was a bit hobbled as well in the middle of the year but he was able to recover.
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He was nowhere near as effective after he hurt his ankle. I'm not sure on exactly how much time he missed, but he definitely had less balls thrown his way.

If you look at game logs you'll see that Jennings was great early in the year but after his injury he wasn't the same player.
Not to mention, he just looked sluggish after his injury, like he wasn't able to move around anymore.

Depth-wise, Chicago is well ahead of Green Bay at every position but DT. Comparing starters was only to prove whoevers point that on paper the talent level is about equal.
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Just on the Jennings note again:



Jennings was tearing it up. People were thinking that he'd put up 1000+ yards. Who knows if he would have, but I can all but guarantee he would have outperformed Berrian. Jennings was sort of forgotten after his injury but he was up there with Colston for awhile.
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Actually our last few games of the season were in the playoffs while Brett Favre was home putting up streamers and picking out pastels for his daughters sweet 16 party. You can't compare games that didn't mean **** for us, that's a ridiculously desperate attempt to try to create a false impression of superiority.
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Jennings was tearing it up. People were thinking that he'd put up 1000+ yards. Who knows if he would have, but I can all but guarantee he would have outperformed Berrian. Jennings was sort of forgotten after his injury but he was up there with Colston for awhile.
Whered you get that chart from? The schedule is wrong, we had the Bears in the last week...
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Whered you get that chart from? The schedule is wrong, we had the Bears in the last week...
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Great job Moses, you just posted the entirely wrong schedule, although the stats looks right, haha. That's pretty funny. :D
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Great job Moses, you just posted the entirely wrong schedule, although the stats looks right, haha. That's pretty funny. :D
Oh, that's this years schedule. Like you said that stats look like they were for the right weeks last year, but still odd.
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The opponents aren't right but the time he got his yards are. I didn't even notice that.
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Had Jennings continued at the pace he was at the first 5 weeks he wouldve hit 1100, he avgeraged 72 yds per game the first 5
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Had Jennings continued at the pace he was at the first 5 weeks he wouldve hit 1100, he avgeraged 72 yds per game the first 5
you can't extrapolate stats like that... just doesn't happen.
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