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Old 08-18-2011, 09:59 PM    (permalink
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i thought sergio did a very solid job tonight
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I've yet to see him asked to cover deep yet. I'm pretty comfortable with him against the run and on short passes, but we need a center fielder. I don't think Sergio can do that.

But yeah, outside of Brady we had some crummy quarterback play tonight. Both Hoyer and Mallet looked completely out of sync and really left a lot on the field. We're really lucky it wasn't worse than it ended up being either; they left some stuff on the field on defense too. Not a big issue, but it's one less game for Hoyer to attract a trade partner next year and it shows that Mallet has some things to work on for sure.
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I think that's always been his problem. His coverage isn't all that bad. Heck, sometimes it's great. He just doesn't ever make a play on the ball. So weird considering that seemed like a strength as a rookie.
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The defensive fronts, movement and general aggression were fantastic. Mayo at OLB as a 4-3 rusher was pretty solid, too. He's definitely got the talent and speed to man that position and, as much as it pains me to say it, could be a lethal combination if Fat Al decides he gives a rat's ass about football this year.

Overall, let me be the first to offer the very mild buzzkill: the Bucs did NOT show up for this game. I still love what I saw from our squad, but we need to at least acknowledge the fact that Tampa's youth (youngry! lol) shined last night - in the bad way, not the good.
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I think we were Yungrier... :D
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lol. I didn't really listen last night so I don't know if they mentioned it, but the Bucs are basically an entire team of under 25 year old players. Sapp was interviewing Raheem last week and they may have discussed it during the Buccs first preseason game (yes, I watch them all.) It was an astounding figure - something like 90% of their players are 25 or younger.
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I think someone said the Patriots were top 3 in the number of under 25s last season.
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We have to be pretty high on the list with the amount of young talent we've brought in over the last few years.
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Yeah, Mayo the pass rusher was the most interesting thing we saw last night besides Andre Carter ******** on the Bucs offensive line. That's not something I thought we would ever see from him despite how good of an athlete he is. It makes sense, I guess. My biggest knock on Mayo is that he's a bit of a compiler and not a true impact player at the position. Putting him in a position to make plays like that and use his athleticism is something that could be a real positive development for this defense.

But yeah, 8 days until the next game, less than a month away from Miami. Exciting stuff if we're going to keep playing like that!
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It's funny that people still think of the Pats as an older team.
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Well, Brady is over the hill. Matt Light is done (Nate Solder may be starting though). The edge rushers are who? Vince Wilfork is "in his prime"

I think it's fair to look at this team as a very veteran team. I didn't just pick random positions. I'd say QB, LT, Edge Rusher, NT are among the top 5 positions based on positional value. There are definitely other ways to look at it, but those positions are definitely in or past their prime.
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This team is a mixed bag. The youth here is largely unproven and far as being key players go.
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The youth isn't forced to be key players, though. Guys become key players by being forced into the situation. See: Brady, Tom (2001), McCourty, Devin (2010). The Pats do a nice job of protecting their youth...possibly to a fault.
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Ochocinco opposite Welker in 1st-team offense

What's everyone thoughts on Ocho as a starter? As much as I love him off the field I'm wondering if he's a bit of a liability as a starter. Last season it seemed like he made it pretty difficult for Palmer because of his inconsistent route running and hands. He's lost a step and without that elite quickness it seems as if his flaws stand out more-beating press and overall lack of physicality. And his hands, once a strength, seem to be failing him more these days. Brady in yesterday's game looked similar to Palmer, imo, when he looked for Chad. You could say it's about chemistry but Palmer had been with him his whole career before looking completely out of sync with him last season. Just random thoughts....
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"Opposite Wes Welker"? He'll be opposite Branch with Welker in the slot... And Chad has to compete for the spot. There's a lot of competition at WR on this team. If he starts over those guys, he'll have done the work and be in pretty good shape for Tom Brady and the rest of the team to rely on him in big spots.
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You bring him in with the expectation of playing him on the outside. There's no one on the roster who has shown the ability to play well in that spot except maybe Price in a REALLY small sample size.
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Welker obviously plays slot in 3 WR sets but I can see it being Welker and Ocho when we're there's only 2 WRs on the field
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Ochocinco opposite Welker in 1st-team offense

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I don't see what the big deal is. If he doesn't do his job, he's not going to start. He's not their only option. If he plays the way he can and is supposed to, they'll be really well-off.

Still think Branch gets more looks, though. He's just a better fit for Brady against most defenses. Ocho is going to be good when the Pats play against teams that have physical secondaries that try to maul their smaller receivers.
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I love Portis and I think he would fit our scheme but we don't need another RB right now. It would be cool to see him in a Patriots uniform, though.
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I loved Portis the 24 year old. Current Portis...not so much. He's still a pretty good scheme fit and a guy who would have been perfect in his prime or good as a veteran, Fred Taylor type signing if were weren't loaded at RB.
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there's no room for him, I agree. probably just taking an early look in case of a future emergency/injury
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