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RB Winn
WR Sims
OG Kline
DT Vellano
LB Tarpinian
CB Morris

Personally, I think the others may come from other teams cuts.

The Patriots need someone to play QB for the majority of the 4th pre-season game. Tebow making the roster at 75 isn't surprising, just because of that.
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I think New England may keep Vellano on the 53-man roster, as he currently has the highest grade of any defender on the team according to PFF's ratings, plus we have little depth at the position as it is. Personally, I'm hoping for Josh Kline, Chris McDonald, Jake Bequette, Jeff Tarpinian, and Justin Green, with Matt Stankiewitch as another possibility. That projection assumes that Boyce, Dobson, Thompkins, Sudfeld, Forston, Vellano, Buchanan, Beauharnais, Collins, Ryan, and Harmon make the team. I'd like to go with Ryan Allen over Zoltan Mesko as well. There's obviously a chance that someone like Bequette could be claimed by another team, but I'd be willing to take that risk.
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You should definitely keep Stank and Morris
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I think Mesko is a fantastic punter. He's super consistent, and is one of the best situational punters in football. It confuses me as to why we brought in competition at punter and not kicker. I've seen nothing out of Allen besides a big inconsistent leg.
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I'm not surprised that Vellano is impressing this much. The guy has always been underrated because of his size, but he's Belichick's ideal type of player. He works hard, is intelligent, and plays well on the field.
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I think Mesko is a fantastic punter. He's super consistent, and is one of the best situational punters in football. It confuses me as to why we brought in competition at punter and not kicker. I've seen nothing out of Allen besides a big inconsistent leg.
I agree with this x 10. Gost has looked pretty bad in the preseason thus far, and does anyone trust him to win a big game if it comes down to it? Cause I dont.
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Don't mean to bring up a sore subject, but apparently there is a really interesting Rolling Stone piece coming up about Aaron Hernandez which has some scary details. He was using angel dust everyday and became so paranoid he carried a gun everywhere, he cut off ties with his family and began surroundingh himself with gang members, Belichick got so sick of his thugish activities and showing up late to practice that he almost cut him, and the usual Urban Meyer covered stuff up for him so that he would't get in trouble.
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I agree with this x 10. Gost has looked pretty bad in the preseason thus far, and does anyone trust him to win a big game if it comes down to it? Cause I dont.
Yup, I never think competition is a bad thing but why for Mesko and not for Gostkowski? Plus, from what I am hearing Mesko should win this punting competition hands down. It's well and good kicking the ball 60 yards, but Mesko almost never outkicks the coverage and as Cmarq mentioned his situational kicking is maybe the best in the NFL.
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Pats picked up former Ole Miss DT Gilbert Pena. Big guy, he's older for a rookie but is pretty athletic for his size. He has talent but I would be surprised if he sticks, I'm pulling for him though. He has quite the story.
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Friend just sent me a text saying Brady was in a car accident.

I almost died until he sent me, oh nvm its a hoax.
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Just compiled a list of everyone released yesterday that New England has has contact with (to my knowledge) since 2009, including pro signings and pre-draft contacts of any sort. Also included a shorter, speculative list of players who seem to make some sense or may be worth investigating. Check it out here:

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2013/...nnections.html

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First guy for me is Joe Adams, I've always been a huge fan of his. He's a gamebreaker.

Zach Wilson could maybe fill a void on this team, he's solid but unspectacular. I think he could work well with Brady.

DeAngelo Peterson is another one. Undersized but could be that "move TE" as you said.

And obviously Sam McGuffie because...well we all know why.
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I think Zach Miller would be cool. He was a quarterback in college, but his athleticism (6'4", 233, 4.53 dash, 37.5" vert, 4.22 shuttle, 7.06 cone) led to him being drafted by Jacksonville as a tight end. According to ProFootballFocus, he's caught 76.3% of his career targets, with a career stat line of 45/59, 470 yards, 4 TD, 1 INT, 2 DP. He may be an interesting reserve "F" if not Peterson.

I like the idea of signing Adams, because it would provide us with something approximating the Ballard signing; we could stash Adams on injured reserve this year at a team-friendly price, then have him under contract for two years afterwards, giving him a chance to compete with someone like Julian Edelman for return duties. If I remember correctly, he fumbled like three returns last year though.
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I think Zach Miller would be cool. He was a quarterback in college, but his athleticism (6'4", 233, 4.53 dash, 37.5" vert, 4.22 shuttle, 7.06 cone) led to him being drafted by Jacksonville as a tight end. According to ProFootballFocus, he's caught 76.3% of his career targets, with a career stat line of 45/59, 470 yards, 4 TD, 1 INT, 2 DP. He may be an interesting reserve "F" if not Peterson.

I like the idea of signing Adams, because it would provide us with something approximating the Ballard signing; we could stash Adams on injured reserve this year at a team-friendly price, then have him under contract for two years afterwards, giving him a chance to compete with someone like Julian Edelman for return duties. If I remember correctly, he fumbled like three returns last year though.
I meant Zach Miller not Zach Wilson, woops. Yeah I want us to bring in Joe Adams. He was the Tavon Austin of the SEC.
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Would anyone be interested in participating in a 53-man Patriots roster projection contest? The deadline for roster cuts is Saturday at 6:00, but I was thinking of maybe setting our deadline at say, midnight on Friday (technically Saturday), with whoever predicts the highest number of players on the final roster receiving +rep from everyone who participates. If some of you are interested, I could create an additional topic. What do you think?
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I am very down for that. It has been a very slow week at work, I need something to keep me busy for a few minutes this afternoon.
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There's obviously a chance that someone like Bequette could be claimed by another team, but I'd be willing to take that risk.
Honestly, I didn't like him at Arkansas and think he's a waste of time and space in NE. I doubt he'll ever play a meaningful series of football for the Patriots.

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Vellano is a guy I could see making the 53 man roster. I just don't know what do with the Armstead situation. I guess we could move Forston down or move Vellano down midseason. It's really hard call I wouldn't want to have to make.
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Yeah, Bequette's strength coming out according to BB was pass rush polish and motor, and if neither of those 2 things have manifested themselves at all in his first 2 camps there is really no reason to keep him around. Everybody else has more upside at DE IMO.
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Don't mean to bring up a sore subject, but apparently there is a really interesting Rolling Stone piece coming up about Aaron Hernandez which has some scary details. He was using angel dust everyday and became so paranoid he carried a gun everywhere, he cut off ties with his family and began surroundingh himself with gang members, Belichick got so sick of his thugish activities and showing up late to practice that he almost cut him, and the usual Urban Meyer covered stuff up for him so that he would't get in trouble.
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Probably being brought in to make the PS.
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New England Patriots 53-Man Roster Prediction Contest:

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Looks like Dowling got cut. That is disappointing, I wanted to see him develop but he could just never get off the ground.
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I'm not even sad, really. (I'm more sad than my laptop keyboard seems to be going out on me) He was still a better DB than Jake Bequette, though.

edit: He got cut for a waived LB? LOL. One of the spots the Patriots are stupidly deep at. I guess NE was done with his antics.
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At least Davis was a productive four-year starter:

2009: 51 TKL, 2.0 TFL, 2.0 SK, 1 QBH, 2 FF, 3 PD

2010: 89 TKL, 15.0 TFL, 8.0 SK, 1 FR (1 TD), 2 PD

2011: 84 TKL, 12.5 TFL, 6.0 SK, 2 QBH, 2 FF, 2 INT, 6 PD

2012: 77 TKL, 11.0 TFL, 4.0 SK, 5 QBH, 3 FF, 1 FR (1 TD), 2 INT (1 TD), 5 PD, 1 K/PB

He also gained a significant amount of weight in the program, joining the team as a 199-pound athlete, but weighing in at 238 pounds during SMU's pro day.
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Ballard and Fells cut...wow
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