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Old 10-06-2013, 03:59 PM    (permalink
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Pathetic last drive. Absolutely pathetic. Everyone, Brady included. Mostly Brady, even.
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Enough ********, pull the ******* trigger and make something happen. 6 ******* points is pathetic.


Im so angry right now lol. Sorry for my raging.
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We have probably the worse receivers in the league right now.

Wonder if the Jags would trade Lewis. I know he's a TE, but our offense can't move the ball.

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You really can't wave a magic wand and make these receivers better. They played well last week...but how much of that was a beat up Atlanta defense and Tom Brady? This just isn't an NFL level offense right now.

Gotta give some credit to the Bengals as well as they can play some serious defense, but when you see that many balls hit the ground it's hard to focus on anything else.
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The receiving was pretty bad in this game, but it's not like Tom Brady looked good at all either.
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The receiving was pretty bad in this game, but it's not like Tom Brady looked good at all either.
It's really all bad though. Tight end production hasn't just taken a nose dive, it's completely disappeared. We turn the ball over on the ground now and aren't nearly as effective running it for yardage either. The line play has been suspect at times. We're asking the receivers to carry the offense when none of them(with the exception of Amendola and Edelman, who played poorly) are ready to play for a high level.

We're just a bad offensive team right now. Brady hasn't played well, but it's just not a good situation for ANY quarterback right now. That last drive in particular was a really poor effort by him though. Receivers were dropping passes, but he couldn't drive the ball through the rain(granted it was pretty extreme rain) and we had a key miscommunication between he and Dobson wrecked any hope we had. Not sure who that's on, but it doesn't really matter.
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This offense is definitely going to be a work in progress.
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Our issues are just completely comprehensive. Each one feeds into the other and makes things far worse than they would be in a vacuum. Unfortunately, I genuinely believe that a lot of this is just flat out poor personnel. Maybe Thompkins and Dobson develop into useful players after shaking out some early issues and settling in like McCourty and Arrington appeared to have. We don't have that kind of time though. I'm not sure how many seasons we have left with Brady still being able to carry a team to the Super Bowl and win, but I don't think we've have the 4+ seasons it took to put together a defense. Our main issue on offense was that we needed to get better at the receiver position. Instead, we've completely hit the reset button.
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We can't make a single difficult catch on offense. While the drops are an issue it's an even bigger issue that we can't make difficult catches to make plays. NFL receivers have to make difficult catches at a 50% clip. We've made them at maybe a 10% clip this year. That isn't going to get it done.
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Really alarming stat to me, Edelman was targeted 7 times and only had 2 receptions. He's supposed to be one of Brady's safety outlets. He had an awful game today. Dobson needs to be more assertive and go up and get the ball in the air, he can't be afraid to be physical. I'm not as concerned about this as I feel some people are, it was an away game, against one of the leagues best defenses, and the part of the game that they needed to throw the ball the most in was marred by a monsoon. Hopefully they can recover like they did against the Bucs after the Jets game. That's going to be hard though. Rob Ryan's defense looks legit and they performed well against the Patriots when he was with the Cowboys in 2011 and the Browns in 2010.
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We can't make a single difficult catch on offense. While the drops are an issue it's an even bigger issue that we can't make difficult catches to make plays. NFL receivers have to make difficult catches at a 50% clip. We've made them at maybe a 10% clip this year. That isn't going to get it done.
Yup, that's an absolutely huge part of it that goes beyond the raw numbers. Part of the reason we did the overhaul in the first place was to win more on the outside. None of our guys have been making those types of plays. The shot to Dobson in the endzone is a good example. Waited for the ball to come to him and allowed the corner to find it and get a hand in as opposed going up and getting it.

Thompkins was absolutely invisible today too.

It really is amazing how many times Cincinnati tried to hand us the game and we weren't able to do anything with it. Just real bad football today.
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Honestly, a tight end would probably as valuable a pick as a receiver. We're twice as likely to take one high as well. Colt Lyerla is interesting. His skill set is complimentary to Gronkowski's and we may not be able to count on Gronk being healthy year in and year out either. May be able to have him on the cheap with his illness/slow start to the year too.
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While I agree I think you can find a good TE in the second/third round. I really really want a goddamn playmaker in the WR corps. We really need one.
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It's going to be a tough call between a DT and a TE. In days of yore very good TE's could be had in rd 2 and 3. Now the really good ones are going to go in the first round. It looks like there may be as many as four or five top TEs. Ebron looks interesting, but he might have too many drops. After this year, I'd prefer someone who can catch :)

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Tom is better at the intermediate routes. Thomson/Dobson while looking very ordinary now will be good enough for defenses to respect the out routes. I think going back to our two TE formula with a serviceable boundary receiver is at this point a better gamble than hoping BB can figure out how to scout receivers.

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Yeah, it's really unreal. One or two drops a game is tolerable. What we're seeing is just...different. None of these guys fight for the ball.

I'll have to start watching games specially for receivers. I'm actually not super enamored with the tops guys in the class. I like Paul Richardson quite a bit, but there's medical concerns and he hasn't done it consistently. Lot of ability there though. Abbrederis has impressed me quite a bit as a next tier guy who might fit into what we like to do here. Runs really good routes and appears to have good hands.
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Tom was bad today. That's pretty much all there was to it. Missed a lot of throws. They should run more plays for the Hooman. He gets open and is a much better receiver than they let him be.

Injuries are really piling up for this team in a bad way. Before it was kind of a blessing in disguise because a lot of young and new players were getting a ton of needed experience, but not having Ridley was killer. Amendola being dog crap in his first game back was killer. Not having a giant target that can erase an errant throw and get Tom going (Gronk/Hernandez) was killer today. Not having Wilfork or Kelly ended up netting Cincy the 7 point advantage that decided the game.

Luckily, the schedule leading up to it isn't that rough, but that Week 10 Bye week is a long ways away.
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Also, the interior line continues to be a problem. When guys are coming off the edge, that's one thing, but when they're coming straight up the middle, that's not ending well for your offense. Especially without a RB that can slip by the rush and take a short pass for a decent gain.
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Give a goddamn 2nd round pick for Josh Gordon. I want him.
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∞x this. It's absurd that this isn't done yet.
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Words will not be able to adequately describe my fury if the 49ers make that deal and we don't.
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I don't know how many of us are watching the Monday nighter with the Sox playoff stuff going on...but Geno Smith is 8/9 for 150+ yards and two touchdowns before the half. With that line and the way the Cincinnati game went the other day, it's kind of looking like the optimism about the offense heading into the week may have had more to do with the Falcons as opposed to the offense actually making progress.
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