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Default Javarris James or Antone Smith

Who's the best when it's all said and done?
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Even though I'm an FSU fan, I have to go James. He's much bigger, and I think he'll be better than Edge.
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Even though I'm an FSU fan, I have to go James. He's much bigger, and I think he'll be better than Edge.
Wow better than Edge, I think he's good but better than James would mean MVP type back.
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I think Antone Smith has more potential, but Javarris James is better right now. I have my doubts as to if Smith will ever reach his potential.
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James. I'm incredibly high on this guy. I think he's got good speed and very good patience
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Even though I'm an FSU fan, I have to go James. He's much bigger, and I think he'll be better than Edge.
No way he will be better than EDGE, but should have a good year even though he will softening up defenses for Graig Cooper. For Smith it depends on the O line, but he has a much more potential than James if he can beef up
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since when has a fsu rb done anything
They're about to start doing stuff this year.
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Can't wait till Antone shuts people up this year. he is a freak of nature.

4.34 speed, with 34 reps of 225. built like a bowling ball.
5'9" 190lbs.
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since when has a fsu rb done anything
umm Leon Washington, and Antone has better measurables than him.

and Antone still has 2 more years left to get even better.
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James easily right now. But I'm more than satisfied with Tone. If he can get to around 200 pounds and keep his 4.3-4.4 speed then I could see him as a Travis Henry type back at the next level or maybe even a Frank Gore type. I'm really excited about what he will do this year with our new coaches. We have always had a top back out of HS (Booker, Leon, Minor, Maddox, all five star players) but because of poor OL play the past few seasons along with injuries and bad scheme they have not met all potential in college. FSU will run the ball more this season, and Tone will be the feature back. He has a chance to become a special FSU back.

James on the other hand, I have no doubts that he will be one of the best backs in College Football this season.
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Javarris easily. He's going to be the next great Miami tailback.
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come on lets get some more responses here.... 285 views... only 11 responses, only 30 votes.... me and my buddy are having a huge debate over this.... I know javarris is better, i just want to know what everyone else thinks!
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umm Leon Washington, and Antone has better measurables than him.

and Antone still has 2 more years left to get even better.
since when do measurable make a player?

i think you actually have to do stuff to be considered good

Washington = 2534 total yards in 4 years
Antone = 843 total yards in 2 years (not starting)
James = 1002 total yards in freshman season
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this isn't close James wins
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I dont think James is neccesarily more "talented" than Antone. But so far (key phrase) he has been the more succesful and proven back. This year will be more of a tell all
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whos this Antone? lol
number 1 all purpose RB from a few years ago and five star recruit....had a very good soph year before injury

what interesting to note is that had Antone went to Miami (he was perceived as a Cane lock but shocked on Signing Day) I believe he would be the starter over James....or would have at least started the 2006 season as the starting RB and he would be the starter going into the 2007 season

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number 1 all purpose RB from a few years ago and five star recruit....had a very good soph year before injury

what interesting to note is that had Antone went to Miami (he was perceived as a Cane lock but shocked on Signing Day) I believe he would be the starter over James....or would have at least started the 2006 season as the starting RB and he would be the starter going into the 2007 season

take it for what you want
i still remember the Noel Devine video that sort of made fun of Smith

it went like: Why did Smith decide not to go to Miami? .... because no 1 wants to be a backup their junior or senior year(forget which) and then it showed the amazing Devine highlights
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Florida State hasn't had a 1000 yard rusher since Warrick Dunn.
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true, but very often is a misleading stat

although they did not have 1,000 yard rushers they still consistently had a top 5 offense in the country year in and year out (and top rated passing attack). They liked to use multiple scat back types instead of one bruiser.

also, Greg Jones would have went over 1,000 in 2002 but got injured with a few games left in the season (I believe he was at 991 yards or something)

Leon Washington and Lorenzo Booker both had over 800 yards in 2004 and Leon would have went over 1,000 had it not been for injuries.

Its a true stat, but aside for the past two years its very misleading because FSU's run game has been good. Guys have been good all around all purpose backs....with Jimbo though I do expect more of an emphasis on the run game
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James has shown that he wants it more. He wasn't a heralded recruit and beat out a lot of highly rated prospects to be the man. I want my running back to show that level of desire to be better than his competition on his team and thus to want to fight for every yard in a game. Smith has been ok but doesn't have much competition and hasn't really stood out to me. Plus with both teams' offensive lines being sorry, I'll take the bigger, more powerful back who won't go down on first contact.
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James has shown that he wants it more. He wasn't a heralded recruit and beat out a lot of highly rated prospects to be the man. I want my running back to show that level of desire to be better than his competition on his team and thus to want to fight for every yard in a game. Smith has been ok but doesn't have much competition and hasn't really stood out to me. Plus with both teams' offensive lines being sorry, I'll take the bigger, more powerful back who won't go down on first contact.
What makes you think James wants it more than Antone? Miami would actually stay commited to running the ball during the coarse of a game. If it wasn't working for us, we'd give it up and just throw the damn ball for the rest of the game. That's why you never saw Antone do anything, plus he wasn't the starter. He's been poorley coached while being at Florida State, and that has changed now. I guess you haven't read any of the Florida State message boards at all during spring practices. Smith hits the hole now. He doesn't sit in the backfield and wait. And he doesn't exactly go down if someone lays a finger on him either.

Now you're about to see what Antone Smith can do this season. He will LEAD THE ACC IN RUSHING this season. Mark it down.
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James has shown that he wants it more. He wasn't a heralded recruit and beat out a lot of highly rated prospects to be the man. I want my running back to show that level of desire to be better than his competition on his team and thus to want to fight for every yard in a game. Smith has been ok but doesn't have much competition and hasn't really stood out to me. Plus with both teams' offensive lines being sorry, I'll take the bigger, more powerful back who won't go down on first contact.
very ignorant post right here.

Oh yeah, Tone actually did win the starting spot against Western Michigan and was going to start against Florida. Booker was moved to WR. Antone got injured, which resulted in Booker starting again. 450 yards as a backup with a horrible OL, horrible scheme and OC, and less than 100 carries is pretty good considering the for-mentioned. You can pick James and i'd have no problem with that. But to say because "James wants is more" is rediculously dumb which nothing to base that on.

oh and James beat out a lot of highly rated prospects? Sure he became the starter, but who else would they have gone to? He got early PT because Moss got suspended, not because he "wanted it more" than those guys. Its not like he beat out any proven players, or anyone who has proven to be better than Booker (3rd round pick)

Miami:
Kylan Robinson 4-star (zero experience)
Charlie Jones 4-star (hasnt done anything)
Derron Thomas 3-star (backup type RB)
Tyrone Moss 4-star (injuries/suspensions undrafted FA)

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Booker 5-star (3rd round pick...a few yards away from being the 2nd Nole ever with 2,000 yards rushing and 2,000 receiving)
Jammal Edwards 4-star (hasnt done anything)
Marcus Sims 4-star (hasnt done anything)
Russell Ball 4-star (speedster that has been injured)

I mean its not like James beat out "all world RB's" and Antone did not beat out anybody when he worked his way into the starting lineup
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